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To be deeply puzzled by competitive anti- feminism.......

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seeker · 21/09/2012 09:13

"I'm not a feminist"

"oh, I'm so much less of a feminist than you are"

"I'm so not a femynyst I don't even know how to spell it"

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PunkInDublic · 21/09/2012 14:35

"trust me you are - by the people calling you, a grown woman, 'girl'"

Bollocks of the highest order. I use both girl and boy to describe adults. Please do not tell me what I mean to say or what I mean when I say something. I have a mind of my own thank you.

atacareercrossroads · 21/09/2012 14:35

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gordyslovesheep · 21/09/2012 14:36

no I am not at all

gordyslovesheep · 21/09/2012 14:37

I havent told you what to feel either

atacareercrossroads · 21/09/2012 14:41

Your're not what? Trying to tell me how I feel? Did you not actually write your earlier posts then or have you forgotten what they contained?

Maybe have a re-read of them.

Or perhaps you mean you're not a feminist? Yes I admit, I made a mistake there, clearly you are about as feminist as someone trying to tell other women what to think, feel and do.

Oh.......

atacareercrossroads · 21/09/2012 14:45

My 3 year old does similar.

Me: "DS Why did you stuff the sandwich in the DVD slot"
DS: "I dint"
Me: "Then why can I see bread hanging out of it"

hes always bloody lying that he didnt do or say stuff that is right infront of me, or in this case just a few posts ^^ up there.

gordyslovesheep · 21/09/2012 14:45

you are being rather aggressive in your posts which I don't think is called for

I have not told you how to feel I have said that by being called 'girl' by people you are being patronised by those people - you don't care which is fine

How is that telling you how to feel

referring to adult women as children is partonising

that is not an un feminist statement nor is it belittling you or your feelings

blimey anyone got a brick wall handy Grin

getmorenappies · 21/09/2012 14:47

< orders more buns >

gordyslovesheep · 21/09/2012 14:48
ShirtyKnot · 21/09/2012 14:50

Heh, it's strange indeed.

atacareercrossroads · 21/09/2012 14:50

Ive been aggressive? Confused

Because Im challenging someone telling me they believe I am being belittled or infantilised?

I am a girl, it is factually correct if I am referred to as such, although generally others call me a woman, I call myself a girl.

I am sorry if me challenging you has upset you Sad

handbagCrab · 21/09/2012 14:51

No one can tell you how to feel.

If you say, bind your feet and someone points out that it is a misogynist practice and is painful and impractical and isn't done to/by men and women equally they are not saying that to make you feel bad personally. If you do feel bad, why do you think that is?

I wear make up most of the time. I don't feel bad and angry and ragy and tell people to fuck off to their own tiny bit of the internet if they point out cultural practices that have socialised me to wear make up. I shrug and move on or examine my point of view.

ShirtyKnot · 21/09/2012 14:52

But you're NOT a girl Confused really are you?

What age does girl stop and woman begin I wonder.

gordyslovesheep · 21/09/2012 14:52

you haven't upset me Grin don't worry

seeker · 21/09/2012 14:53

Can I ask why you call yourself a girl?

And do you call other women girls too?

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getmorenappies · 21/09/2012 14:54

You can all have a go at me for a while if you like, just for the sake of a bit of female solidarity....

atacareercrossroads · 21/09/2012 14:56

oh good, I was concerned given that you said my 'aggressive' (does that mean "doesnt put up with someone telling me how I should refer to myself ) posts were uncalled for.

Shirty - Yes, I am a girl, I am also a woman, female etc

ShirtyKnot · 21/09/2012 14:56

Oh Fuck off getmorenappies you fucking ARSE.

Cor! I enjoyed that.

(Oh and if this gets reported like someone reported me yesterday for JOKINGLY calling a friend an atrocious cunt, then please don't delete MNHQ. I am JOKING)

amillionyears · 21/09/2012 14:56

seeker,post 13.56pm
Your first sentence.
I am trying to write this with respect.
I think you dont believe some things that you read or hear, on here and in RL,purely because you dont like them.
So then you try and block them in some way. Or try and find ways round.
Its nicer, and a lot easier I would have thought,to accept the things we dont like.

getmorenappies · 21/09/2012 14:57

:o @ Shirty

atacareercrossroads · 21/09/2012 14:58

I call myself a girl because Im not a boy Seeker.

And yes, sometimes.

PunkInDublic · 21/09/2012 14:59

"I have not told you how to feel I have said that by being called 'girl' by people you are being patronised by those people"

I used girls and boys to describe adults. I am not patronising or belittling those people. As I said earlier, I am referring to their gender only, not their age. What offends or belittles you does not necessarily offend or belittle someone else.

Hullygully · 21/09/2012 15:00

18

One becomes a woman at 18

One becomes a girl at say 12

Below that one is a young girl

seeker · 21/09/2012 15:01

But why don't you call yourself a woman because you're not a man?

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atacareercrossroads · 21/09/2012 15:06

because I prefer to use girl. quite simply. Guess its in keeping with my 'forever young' plan. Grin

and tbf most people I know use girls/boys so guess it sticks.