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To HATE the word cupcake?!

236 replies

cupofteaandasliceofcake · 19/09/2012 12:16

What's with the use of the word 'cupcake' everywhere now?! It's not a cupcake. It's a fecking bun. With fancy icing on it.
Sorry, just needed to get that off my chest! Grin

OP posts:
SuoceraBlues · 20/09/2012 15:03

I make an excpetion for choclate ganache in the "smeared on shite" catatory.

I can eat it off a spoon quite happily.

And then scoff the mudcake after.

Yummy mudcake.

squoosh · 20/09/2012 15:06

Australian Chocolate Mud Cake you say . . . . . . . with ganche you say . . . . .

Oh Lordy, sounds delish!

perfectstorm · 20/09/2012 15:32

Choc mud cake is yum. So is devil's food cake. I use the same ganache for both.

Want recipes? I can google them up if you like? (Only don't use 70% choc in the mud cake unless you really like bitter, as the coffee and Tia Maria make it too bitter for most tastes - I use half 70%, and half good quality milk choc.)

prettybird · 20/09/2012 15:52

I support of nickeldaisical: OUP Definition see def 3

and here:

The free dicitionary

Personally, I just see and eat them all as cake Grin

nickeldaisical · 20/09/2012 15:57

and you can't argue with the OED Grin

Thanks prettybird. i luffs you.

prettybird · 20/09/2012 16:03

Where's a when you need one? Wink

perfectstorm · 20/09/2012 16:05

Oooh, I second that! Don't care if it's a slice or a cupcake. I would like to be able to offer people that.

valiumredhead · 20/09/2012 18:41

I'd kill for a Belgian bun with a cherry on the top atm!

Scheherezade · 20/09/2012 19:45

I don't know if anyone has already explained this, but there is a reason for them being called cupcakes, because of the way they are (traditionally) made- a cup of flour, cup of butter, cup of sugar.

MaddyM · 20/09/2012 19:54

I LOVE Cupcakes! I love fairy cakes, I love butterfly cakes. I just love cake! I don't care what you call it. There's far worse things to worry about than a word.

frumpet · 20/09/2012 21:47

I hate cupcakes , fairy cakes and buns .

FelixCited · 20/09/2012 21:55

I prefer a homemade jam tart myself

cupofteaandasliceofcake · 20/09/2012 21:57

Yes, Scheherezade , and that's all very well and good when in America and everything is measured out in cups. Then it can be called a cupcake. Grin Here in the UK though, I bet I can count on one hand the amount of people who actually count everything in 'cups' of stuff, and 'cups' of butter - hence the name is slightly daft!
Let's call a bun a BUN, people!

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perfectstorm · 20/09/2012 22:13

But... it isn't a bun to the vast majority of people.

Google Images for buns (set to UK sites only).

And for cupcake.

If most people call an item something else, it's kind of weird to try to insist they adopt your very rare definition. I mean, the point of language is to communicate. If most people mean something different to you by a word, then maybe you should consider a switch, if you really mind the double meaning so much? Confused

You sound like my husband. He gets antsy about my calling lunch "lunch" instead of "dinner" ("it's school dinners! Not school lunch!") and supper "supper", too. (It should be "tea", according to him. Which ignores the 3.30 version which you have with, you know - tea.)

GreenEggsAndNichts · 20/09/2012 22:14

yep sorry, the cupcakes I make at home (American, living in the UK) are quite nice. Our cakes (I hesistate to step toe in the nonfat sponge madness so let's just say cakes) do tend to have more fat in them than perhaps the equivalent here, a fairy cake. I think where some fail here is that they take their standard fairy cake recipe but use it to make a cupcake, which is bigger. A fairy cake is lovely, but it's not really a rich, moist thing. It's different.

And cupcakes with a mountain of icing piped on top are vile. I know it's the trendy way to do them (if they are even trendy anymore; suspect they aren't) but it's not very nice. I still prefer the traditional way of icing them at home, something like this.

Of course, if I wanted to charge 2.50 per cupcake, I'd pipe and sparkle and whatever else makes people part with that kind of cash for a wee cake. :)

crazycanuck · 20/09/2012 22:30

Totally agree with you greeneggs, I was about to come on and post that those complaining about dry tasteless cupcakes have obviously never had a proper well-made one. I'm Canadian (does my name give it away? Grin) living in the UK and I must admit I make a kick-arse cupcake, iced to perfection with the optimal amount of icing (like greeneggs' link).

perfectstorm · 20/09/2012 22:36

Yep. A good cupcake is delicious. A bad one is horrible. Like a lot of rich, sweet food.

ekidna · 20/09/2012 22:37

jesus in the sky i am so with you OP.
makes me wanna puke.
and cant believe how many of my seemingly normal friends crap on about wanting to start a fucking cup cake business. a mobile van cup cake business, a static cup cake business etc etc etc ad cupcakus nauseum mauseulum

IHeartMyGirls · 20/09/2012 22:42

Other than the frosting icing on top, what is the difference between a muffin and a cupcake?

GreenEggsAndNichts · 20/09/2012 22:50

Good call. Almost nothing, except that people think they're being virtuous by having a muffin rather than having a cupcake. Especially if the muffin is one with berries or something in it. :) Tis one of your five a day, don't you know!

perfectstorm · 20/09/2012 23:12

In baking terms, you use buttermilk (fermented milk, like yoghurt, and very tart with natural acidity) and hardly mix at all with a muffin, which makes the crumb light and moist. You can use acid in a cake recipe too (choc fudge cake does, and red velvet, and devil's food cake I make has natural cocoa in which hasn't had an alkali added like supermarket cocoa here, so is also acid), which also makes for a tender crumb, allegedly, but it isn't that common. Most cake recipes are more alkali, and rise because you use a light hand and loads of baking powder. And you mix more thoroughly.

perfectstorm · 20/09/2012 23:13

Agree that there is bugger all reason you couldn't ice one, though, and it's no healthier.

ExitPursuedByABear · 20/09/2012 23:15

A muffin is bread for goodness sake.

perfectstorm · 20/09/2012 23:19

An English muffin is, yes. Delicious with eggs. ;)

There's this bit in What Katy Did Next when they order muffins for breakfast in the 1890s and are horrified by the old socks they are served. As a kid I was confused - muffins were things my mum toasted at tea, what was their problem? But if you expected a cake and got a cross between a crumpet and a roll, you'd be a bit grumpy too.

mjltigger · 20/09/2012 23:19

This is the funniest thread I've seen in ages...

Sponge is sponge if it sinks in the middle when you open the oven door whether it has fat in or not

carrot cake topping is amazing.. mmmmm

buns are bread with icing on

fairy cakes are small sponge cakes with a little bit of water ice on.. ideally with raisins in

butterfly cakes have wings and a little bit of butter icing

cupcakes are dry tasteless things hidden under layers of not quite set butter cream in fancy patterns and garish colours..

nuff said..