To be angry that the Chief Constable chose the words..

[seeker]

"gentle" and "a chatterbox" respectively to describe the two women police officers who were murdered on duty yesterday.

Can you imagine those words ever being used to describe a man?

"Ah, you mean those who have the temerity to disagree with your obvious agenda!"

My agenda? That professional women who died doing their duty should be treated with respect by their "superiors" ?

But you obviously do - given the time at which you started this thread. Less than 24hrs after they've been killed.

You've criticised the CC for paying tribute to two murdered officers, using words that described them as human beings, not just a uniform.

Seeker what a shame you can't practice what you preach and show them respect.
they have died ffs, where is your respect?

Your obvious agenda - to state your case that describing murdered officers in a decent light is wrong, and to carry on stating that case.

If mouthing meaningless platitudes is your thing, then make a complaint to the CC of GMP. I'm sure he'll give it the attention it deserves.

They have been treated with respect, FGS.

It's not like the CI went on the news and said "We'll really miss X. She really brightened up the lad's day when she came in the staff room, she was very attractive. She also looked great in the uniform phwoar etc etc"

He spoke about her in quite a fatherly way, actually and I think to have someone high-up in the force talk about your child so affectionately is a lovely thing. So it doesn't conform to the RadFem Handbook of Awkwardness? Big deal, in this instance.

OP I can't work out if you are just pigheaded or wanting fight.
The chief constable DID choose his words carefully. He chose words their family used.
Or are you going to keep ignoring the fact that this will have come from the family.
Like a priest does at a funeral.

Its sick this has been twisted into some sick agenda about feminism and getting at the police.

I also think the words were rather ill chosen to be honest.

Could you try to be a little more intemperate clippedphoenix? You're letting the rest us us RadFems down.

Yes, that's exactly it. He talked about her in a fatherly way, which is, by definition, patronising.

I honestly don't see what's so bad about being called a young girl.

Get a grip. Seriously, it's beyond a joke. It's sickening you've used the death of two women for you to get up on your soapbox.

Depends on what sort of person you are, I expect. I don't find it patronising to speak fondly of the DEAD. It's not like he was talking them up for promotion.

Now I know why I avoid the feminist boards like the plague.

"My agenda? That professional women who died doing their duty should be treated with respect by their "superiors" ?"

The majority of people here believe that they have been treated with respect. And I've not seem any complaints from their families or representatives.

The only lack of respect that I can see is someone trying to misuse the events to support some personal agenda.

Because a woman in her 30's is not a young girl. She is an adult woman.

How is talking in a fatherly was patronising. These girls had fathers and THE WORDS USED TO DESCRIBE THEM CAME FROM THE PARENTS.
essentially you are slagging off a grieving family. Nice. Very nice.

I really don't see why you're all frothing about this. He could have chosen better words. I don't think anyone's tried to say it's a massive deal or that he should be disciplined or anything. Just that it's a bit disappointing in this day and age.

Actually eatsbrains to her parents (who picked the deceiving words) she is probably still their little girl. To a person in their 50/60s someone in their thirties may seem 'young' and therefore a 'young girl'.
Let the parents describe them how they want.

Those of you frothing about the words chosen... perhaps you'd like to take this up with their families and friends who described them. Make sure you leave them in no doubt about your disgust for the way they have described their dead relative, friend or colleague....they have to be taught to be more respectful after all.

Fancy humanising them.....oh the shame.

I'm not frothing. I'm disagreeing. I think that's permitted, don't you?
And only a tiny minority of radical fems seem to be disappointed.
The majority thought it was a fitting tribute to two much loved colleagues.

describing words

Eatbrains - that's a matter of opinion. There's women who refer to themselves as going out with 'the girls' and all that. There's nothing wrong with being described as a young girl. There was no malice or bad intent behind it. But SOME feminists have to find offence with anything that's gender related.

As I've said we call our army men, 'lads'. It's been in the news about 'young lads never coming home'. You want equality right? That sounds about equal to me.

It's like you have to see a hidden agenda behind everything. I'm by no means ignorant, but I'd hate to live the life of some of you were a simple phrase can have you foaming at the mouth, and ignoring the fact that 2 women tragically lost their lives.

I really don't see why you're all frothing about this. He could have chosen better words. I don't think anyone's tried to say it's a massive deal or that he should be disciplined or anything. Just that it's a bit disappointing in this day and age.

Yes, I really don't see why you and others are frothing about the words used in the heartfelt tributes. It is very disappointing indeed that people could be so disrespectful as to do this.

I'm not a rad fem at all. Honest.

lady how can anyone be disappointed about how a grieving family have described their dead daughter to the chief constable? Would you tell the family that to their face?
Do you know what feminism is NOT the centre of the world or all its issues. People who think it is set women back.
This is about 2 people who have been murdered.

I'm not a rad fem at all. Honest.

No, just disrespectful.

THAT'S the thing that strikes you most about this?! Wow. So someone describes two people they know with caring, affectionate words, and you have a problem with that.
Some people are just strange.

Oh, and why on earth wouldn't you use gentle or a chatterbox to describe a man?!