To want to take my baby on public transport?

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Just returned from a trip to London with my 3 month old baby. Very busy train on the return journey with a lot of luggage so there wasn't room for my pram (quinny with basinet) in the luggage area as i'd politely hung back to allow others to get on in front.

I put it in the next carriage, as advised by a staff member and then a manager asked (very loudly) whose pram was parked next door and it couldn't stay there etc. He was obviously harrassed, but was quite rude and sarcastic to me. After a very publuc discussion he said 'well these trains are not made for prams really'.

If that's the case - why sell family railcards?

I can't believe how mean people are being to this poor woman! Does no one remember how stressful it was doing things for the first time with a small baby - worrying that you're doing it wrong, that you're going to have to leave the baby on the train while you get your stuff off, that people are judging your every move?

A bit of human kindness is what's required here, not a load of people jumping on the 'I manage with 4 kids, a light foldable and a dog and it was the Great Blizzard of 1987' bandwagon. Christ, this place sometimes.

i love that, that is your indication of whether someone is rude or not worra

'did they call you a cunt?' well DID they?!

MrDob

No but really, Why one earth are people thinking people were being rude before the OP got sarky and then flounced?

Mwahahaha.

I remember travelling on busy trains with a toddler, a baby, a bag and a fold-up buggy as one of the most horrible experiences of my life. Seriously fucking stressful.

Don't worry OP, I have found as my baby gets older, I have developed more of a thick skin when it comes to people's comments in public. Also, don't worry about a few grumpy people. I vastly underestimated how much people in London like babies.

i agree worra no-one was rude, until OP came back and said 'MN is not for me'

I suspect she is feeling a bit wounded and a hot flush ofembarrassment, on realising no-one agrees with her, and she might be wrong?!

I love babies and even I hate buggies sand small kids on public transport - London does funny things to me...

and

I hate UMBRELLAS...and people with umbrellas....

OK, no one was rude at first, just MN blunt. So, the OP got a bit defensive. Which we old lags have all been trained out of by seeing on AIBU the only thing to do if YABU is to admit YABU or face the wrath. OP didn't know this so got a little arsey. Then people were a bit more mean and she flounced. I hope she learns, NCs and comes back or discovers Nethuns which may be more her speed, who knows.

People with suitcases in the aisle...

Trains are too crowded, too often. I get the rage on crowded trains, even when I'm travelling on my own.

I can't see any rudeness after she flounced either?

Perhaps I've gone 'rude blind'?

Short people with umbrellas... and rolling luggage. GET OFF THE ESCALATOR WITH YOUR LUGGAGE AND WALK AWAY. DON'T UNFOLD IT BY THE BOTTOM YOU IGNORAMUS.

or you can dig your heels in mrsterry and out-rude the fuckers

Actually just people in general piss me off...

umbrellas are STUPID. they only keep your head dry AND you cant see where you are going imbeciles AND you keep poking people in the eyes imbeciles

Buy some fucking waterproof trousers AND A PROPER JACKET

me too valium me too!

you might be right worra Does sarcasm count as rude?

I read that as 'to want to make my baby on public transport', whole different thread ...

People who use the seat next to them on busy trains for their luggage. Or their guitar, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE SMELLY HIPPY WHO ONLY MOVED YOUR GUITAR WHEN I LOUDLY SAID, "I'M SURE YOUR GUITAR NEEDS TO SIT MORE THAN THE ELDERLY PASSENGER NEXT TO YOU".

I need to leave this thread. I am taking MrDobalina's advice and trying to out-rude in future

you might be right worra Does sarcasm count as rude?

I hope not or that's the rest of my life fucked!

I knew you'd get get lots of postsp lambasting you for your inconsiderate choice of pram and advising you to use a sling. The reality is it wouldn't matter what you used to transport the baby, fellow passengers at peak times probably find the baby objectionable - 'why can't she just travel off peak'. I really wouldn't give a second thought to those advising you to be more considerate as commuters are by nature very inconsiderate, huffing and puffing at any inconvenience to themselves. The ticket man was rude and yes you should be able to travel unapologetically on public transport, other mums especially should be more understanding IMO!