to be sat here crying

[rockandahardplace2012]

The woman next door is shouting and telling her dd to "fuck off" and saying "do you want it!" presumably asking whether she wants a smack. Im sat here sobbing my heart out that poor baby she was crying for her mummy whilst all tjis was going on. God i feel sick to my stomach

I can't imagine someone shouting "do you want this" and meaning it in a positive way tbh.

Thank you comrade and shagmund

"Her crying has everything to do with it. If the shouting was bad enough to make her cry it's everything to do with it. "
Some people cry at andrex puppies, its hardly an accurate measure. You might want to read what people write before responding though.

whatyoulookingat do you think its right to threaten a 2 year old with sleeping downstairs on her own?

yes, thats exactly what I said.

FFS. READ.

Comparing crying at sodding Andrex puppies is hardly the same.

I'm glad people all haven't got attitudes like yours.

Well i'd hate to be your children......

Are you people this daft in real life? Or just here?

I said, for those who can't read that RINGING THE POLICE was over the top. which it is. The police are the wrong people to ring, there are other agencies that are appropriate. If you think that translates as "I think child abuse is an excellent idea", you're an idiot.

I wondered if she was referring to milk when she shouted Do you want this?

Who did you phone in the end op?

Whatyoulookingat If you would have read MY post, i didnt ring the bloody police. I rang the NSPCC. poopoo By the way she said it it didnt sound that way

Which was probably why I wasn't talking to you. Which is clear in my post.
you know your OP is all about you and not about the child?

how do you work that one out, why would i ring them if it was all about me?

Why cant you try and befriend the woman perhaps sounds like she needs support as does her child.

Why would i want to befriend a woman who threatens her dd, and tells her to fuck off? I would want her near my dd. Yes she needs help but im not willing to give it her. My only concern is her little girl. Sorry

A dummy? Trying to wean toddler off dummy, toddler is crying and wont sleep, exasperated mum snaps "do you want this", holding up dummy......?

When my two year old wont sleep, I have threatened to put him in the cot (he sleeps in a bed btw). I wouldnt send him downstairs on his own ,but dont see threatening to do so as much different to this?

You've said quite a few times about the "type" of people they are. I wonder if that is affecting your judgement of the situation?? If she was a naice married middle class mummy, would you still be as concerned? Not saying you wouldnt btw, just wondering...

Although I will point out again, even if she did mean a smack, smacking is not illegal. A lot of posters seem to forget this.
But of course pointing this out will mean that I agree with child abuse...

Her class has got nothing to do with it, i was merely saying she doesnt look the sort you could knock on her door and confront her about it. Yes if she was a middle class mum i would be doing exactly the same thing! Is it really worth taking the chance, like pp have said if it gets investigated and shes a healthy little girl. Then thats fine.

Good good. As I said earlier, no probs reporting if you feel you should :)

And btw Im not a married middle class woman, im a single mum on benefits does that make it fairer?

Depends if you have a big telly
Not being argumentative, just trying to give her some benefit of the doubt, see it from another angle rather than helpfully jump in telling you to call 999 and perhaps the army :) I'm a nice person, i promise

OK well im sorry just still a bit touchy about it all. Im honestly just thinking of the welfare of the little girl.

Thankyou shinyrobot had a call from child protection services and they said they already know the names of her children. So im guessing shes been reported before, they are going to be doing an assessment I think. So fingers crossed something will be done.

If a woman came on here and said her husband had been using threatening words while screaming at her, most people would rightly condemn said husband.

Why then is it ok for a mother to behave like that towards a child?

You're getting a hard time on here which isn't fair - but I think what it is is you saying you were sitting and crying over this little girl.

Some posters' hackles were up (mine included) because a) it smacks of you simply coming on here to show what a kind heart you have and b) had not yet done anything about it.

However you have done something about it which is brilliant - and I think everyone should stop attacking you.

I also don't think for one moment you should have to befriend this woman. Would everyone suggesting she needs support really devote their time to someone who seems thoroughly unpleasant? I wouldn't.