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To find Kim Marsh's wedding pictures in incredible bad taste

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Whitershadeofpale · 11/09/2012 19:50

daily mail alert

Selling your wedding pictures may not be to my taste but each to their own but making money out of posing in your wedding dress with your dead son's ashes leaves an incredibly bad taste in my mouth.

I understand if she'd wanted to take the ashes as a private tribute but exploiting it for financial gain I find frankly disgusting.

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Moominsarescary · 12/09/2012 09:06

Thanks kayano I had a stitch put in at 14 weeks so hopefully that will stop it happening again. It's very stressful though and we still haven't told our families. I don't want them having the same worry we have. I'm hopeing to get as close to the 24 week mark as possible before telling them but my clothes are starting to get a bit tight now!

Kayano · 12/09/2012 09:12

This may sound like I'm taking the piss but I am honestly not and have very limited knowledge about ic

But do you remember that story in the paper a while ago about that woman who was advised to lie on a bed that was tilted so her legs were in the air after she sadly had two issues and a failing stitch?

It must be so hard I really feel you you and kym marsh and anyone in that situation

I Think if I had lost a child like Kym I would want him acknowledged in some way at my wedding. That article itself is upsetting as it mentions their three children

David, Emily and Billy

Considering the whole photo is about her with her child Alfie I find that hugely disrespectful. They have four children Sad

LRDtheFeministDragon · 12/09/2012 09:13

Your poor mum, pag. Sad

It's good she's able to talk to you about him, and not let him be forgotten.

My dad's mum lost her first baby, too - she only told her other children when they were grown up and my dad only told us when we were, so we don't forget.

Kayano · 12/09/2012 09:13

Moomin start now complaining that you are eating too many pies and throw them off the scent Grin

Every time you see anyone go holding a packet of empty crisps

Kayano · 12/09/2012 09:14

Well they have five now but it was about their older children.

Man I am fucking up my posts today Confused

QuickLookBusy · 12/09/2012 09:19

nellyjelly the fact she has sold this photo to a celeb magazine means Kim Marsh is raising awareness of stillbirth.

She is in a position to do that. Don't you understand that unless people do this kind of thing stillbirth will continue to be brushed under the carpet?

lolaflores · 12/09/2012 09:24

Dear All,
sorry for offence taken and any caused. That is from the very bottom of my heart, please believe me. I did not mean that her grief should be shrouded so as not to offend anyone, or give people icky feelings. My father died when I was 8 and so I know about grief but not losing a child. My mother had him disinterred from where he was originally buried and moved elsewhere on the advice of a psyhcic (tha'ts another story). Frankly I found it too much to bear. To let someone rest in peace means to me, that they are still in our hearts and memories including their death and burial. Her decision to remove him caused a mental breakdown for me, it was unbearable. Parts of his death and memory are too private and personal on some levels to share publicly, as I don't believe anyone can truly understand what it means to me. Just as I am sure Kym cannot fully explain how she feels about the loss of her child. My fathers remains are also in the same category for me. So to that end I keep most people at a distance from the subject, not to spare anyone elses feelings, but rather my own.

I genuinely do not understand her decision. So perhaps thats why my post appears ignorant, without compassion and so on. The fact it is in a magazine like Hello, makes it even harder.
Again, very sorry. Please try and understand where I am coming from with this.

Moominsarescary · 12/09/2012 09:27

Yes I remember it, if it's the same one she had the baby just after I lost Jacob. The stitch was failing so they put her on tilted bedrest to take the pressure off the cervix.

Yes pies and crisps, maybe chocolate too!

expatinscotland · 12/09/2012 09:41

I now know many people who have lost a child - my child died of cancer and unfortunately, several more children whose parents I knew have died in just the two months since we lost our daughter - and many chose to have their children cremated to keep them close to the rest of the family.

We chose to bury our daughter, but others have not and I completely understand why.

I know people who have their children near them, their ashes, always.

It was not for us, but there's no way I'd criticise their decision because it doesn't fit in with our own experience of losing a child.

They rest no matter what. Ours is an inheritance of lifelong loss. We think of our children every single day. Constantly. If there were a way to have our children with us, I know not one parent who wouldn't happily sell their own soul to the devil to have them back.

Kym had to give birth to a dead son. I cannot imagine how unbelievably painful that must have been for her. NO ONE deserves that.

Since I haven't been in that position, it's really not for me to say she made the wrong decision based on what I would have done.

This was the only way for her to have her son with the rest of her family on her wedding day.

I'm glad she did adn think the photo is beautiful.

mrsmangelsneck · 12/09/2012 09:41

Kym is a smart cookie and she will have known she'd get shit for the photo. Full credit to her for saying this is our son and our grief and why should we hide it.

expatinscotland · 12/09/2012 09:43

'I genuinely do not understand her decision.'

I'm very glad you do not. Because I would not wish the pain of losing a child on any one, at all, ever. It is a grief like nothing else. Nothing.

expatinscotland · 12/09/2012 09:44

Exactly, mrsmangle!

soontobeyummy · 12/09/2012 09:45

I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to experience what she has. Who are any of us to tell another person how they 'should' deal with their grief?
I think it's a lovely way of remembering her little boy, and can imagine it brings comfort to her to have him with her, to make him feel near to her, and to include him in family events like her wedding day.
She's not likely to have turned round to Hello and asked them to use that one. It will have been one of hundreds taken that day, and I'm assuming Hello will have led with that one as it has an angle to the wedding day story.
What's wrong with that, even if they did? Kym obviously wanted her little boy to be a part of the celebrations, just like the rest of the family.
Why should she hide him away like a secret in case people are uncomfortable, if that's what helps her heal?
My heart goes out to Kym and all others on this thread who have lost babies Sad

mrsmangelsneck · 12/09/2012 09:46

And I sort of hope she will see this thread, not for the nasty comments but to see how many people support her and think the pic is lovely.

missymoomoomee · 12/09/2012 10:03

Lola I do see where you are coming from, a purely selfish and judgemental place based on your own experience.

Now see where most of the people on this thread are coming from. That picture, aside from imo being tasteful and beautiful has got people talking about a really difficult issue. I said upthread that when I speak about my children its mostly met with an uncomfortable silence and a subject change because people don't talk about babyloss, its too uncomfortable and its easier for people not to think about it.

Yesterday someone who usually wouldn't speak to me about my son and daughter talked to me about that picture which then led onto a conversation about my babies. That is a very rare thing to happen in the 14 years since my son died and 5 years since my daughter died someone has started a conversation with me about babyloss probably about 5 times, and even then only because, sadly, they have suffered such a loss too.

I am in awe of Kim just now to have let such a personal picture be used, knowing what some would say, and I even love Hello for being brave enough to put that picture in their magazine too. Its helping to break the stigma attached to babyloss that sadly a lot of us have to face daily.

SayersIsBetterThanGreggs · 12/09/2012 10:12

Greif affects everyone in different ways, I remember my aunt wore her 13 year old dds 2 sizes too small school shoes for years after she died. She hasn't been 'ok' about anything since tbh and she lost her over 17 years ago.

Will say shame on the photographer for asking her to pose for that photo tho.

expatinscotland · 12/09/2012 10:14

'Will say shame on the photographer for asking her to pose for that photo tho.'

Why? She consented to it. She may even have suggested it. It's a beautiful shot and very moving, IMO. Why is there anything to be ashamed of? It's a mother posing with her child on her wedding day.

DappyHays · 12/09/2012 10:32

It is only a picture. No-one is causing anyone any actual harm. If we don't like it we don't have to look.

I don't have it in me to criticise anyone for their actions following the loss of their child.

perceptionreality · 12/09/2012 10:35

YABU - how dare you assume you're the judge of 'acceptable' ways to grieve??

EverlongYouAreGoldAndOrange · 12/09/2012 10:39

I read this thread last night but couldn't be bothered to post.

Sometimes when you have a dead child you do the weirdest things. Honestly.

But to you it makes sense, it gives you comfort, even it's only for a moment.

I think starting this thread to mock Kym Marsh and her motives is quite despicable and I hope all of you who have mocked never have to find out what it is actually like to be in her shoes.

And I hope Kym Marsh doesn't see this thread either.

limitedperiodonly · 12/09/2012 11:12

nellyjelly I'm sure you don't mean to make it look like you don't like Kym Marsh just because she's a minor celebrity and does the things that minor celebs do, like selling their wedding pix to Hello!.

But that's how it's coming across.

Jusfloatingby · 12/09/2012 11:20

Bringing her baby's ashes with her to the wedding is nice and understandable. Even mentioning it during the interview is fine. But posing on the front of OK like she did was tasteless in my view. It looked contrived not beautiful or sad or poignant, but contrived.

Kayano · 12/09/2012 11:22

On a different note - if someone wanted to give me money and a professional photographer to put my wedding pics in a mag I would!

It's not some sacred blessed day, it's just the day you happened to get married

And if doing that provides enough funds to pay for your own children's weddings, or university, or a deposit on their first house etc, it's a very rare person who would say no I bet

Kayano · 12/09/2012 11:23

So you think he should be hidden away? He was there... That is literally all she has of him, an undying love, some memories and pics and those ashes!

Bravo kym I say!

EverlongYouAreGoldAndOrange · 12/09/2012 11:24

Kym Marsh would have had the photo's took anyway I'm guessing, that's what slebs do.