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To think that today's episode of Thomas the Tank Engine was quite blatantly sexist?

92 replies

WillNeverGetALicence · 30/08/2012 15:34

Sodor United was playing a football match.

Male engines such as Thomas were given the exciting role of collecting the players for the match.

Emily the steam engine was given the job of taking the dirty washing to the "washing woman".

Emily decided this was not an important enough job for her to do.
So she tried to help the male engines with their jobs, which made them cross and tell her off for interfering with them and that she should be concentrating on her own job.

Then when the players arrive for their match there are no clean uniforms [as Emily has not taken the dirty washing to be cleaned].

She is glared at by her boss the male fat controller and the male players all look very put out indeed. Thomas just looks shocked by her behaviour.

Thus Emily learns that all jobs are important and she chuffs away to get the washing done and arrives back with it draped all over her [as she has been drying it on the journey back].

DS1 & 2 watched episode with interest. I sat there with mouth open thinking either I am very paranoid or this seemed to have some sort of anti-feminist subtext to it. A bit "woman know your place", don't be interfering with important men's work, don't think for yourself and don't deviate from what you are told by the male fat controller!

Yes, I know it is just a kiddie cartoon... perhaps it was just the hammering home of a female character [albeit a train engine] and her job being dealing with the dirty washing that set my teeth on edge!

AIBU?

OP posts:
MadgeHarvey · 30/08/2012 15:35

Are you serious?

MarthasHarbour · 30/08/2012 15:36

I am no feminist but that would have set my teeth on edge too!

YANBU

Kayano · 30/08/2012 15:36

!

That's terrible!

Slumberparty · 30/08/2012 15:37

YANBU - that's terrible!

blueraincoat · 30/08/2012 15:38
Shock

YANBU!

JumpingThroughMoreHoops · 30/08/2012 15:38

God forbid they televise books written in 1948 lest someone be offended.

Viperidae · 30/08/2012 15:38

I think you need to get a life.

notsofrownieface · 30/08/2012 15:40

YANBU, I do not have the need to watch kids tv, so I am completely unaware but was it an old episode like from the 50's?

NiniLegsInTheAir · 30/08/2012 15:42

I thought Thomas was written in the 80's not the 40's?

And in any case, Emily wasn't an original character so this is new 'modern' storyline. Definitely YANBU.

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WillNeverGetALicence · 30/08/2012 15:42

I am serious Madge.

Truly that was the gist of the episode, shocking isn't it!

Yes, I may be overdramatising my reaction to it but it just didn't seem a modern approach to storytelling and gender roles...

I wonder if this was actually an original Thomas story from the 1940s!

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NiniLegsInTheAir · 30/08/2012 15:43

Scratch that, wiki is my friend. They were written in the 40's. Smile

But my point about Emily still stands.

CrispyCod · 30/08/2012 15:44

I'm surprised Emily was allowed to be a steam engine in the first place. Grin

fluffyraggies · 30/08/2012 15:45

Yeah, actually that is pretty off OP.

With things that are shown to children this sort of thing does matter. It's not an excuse to say it was written ages ago. Young children are living and learning in the here and now. They havn't the maturity to laugh at it and say 'it's ok, it was written in the 50's'.

CinnabarRed · 30/08/2012 15:45

You know, I took it completely the other way and used it as a homely to my sons of how important traditional "women's work" is. In fact, I had my 4 year old begging me to let him load the washing machine.

fluffyraggies · 30/08/2012 15:50

But the way you took it cinnabar surely proves that it carried the message that washing is 'women's work'?

fluffyraggies · 30/08/2012 15:52

Why am i discussing Thomas the Tank Engine??! Grin

WillNeverGetALicence · 30/08/2012 15:52

All those posters telling me to get a life..

But have you considered how these depictions form ideas of gender role?

And cinnabar yes, doing the washing is important work. But why should it be depicted as "women's work" which it clearly was in this episode - with Emily given this role to deliver the washing to the the "washing woman!

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JollyHockeyStick · 30/08/2012 15:53

What channel/time is Thomas on? Agree with this storyline being strange and wrong, but DS would love to watch Thomas.

JumpingThroughMoreHoops · 30/08/2012 15:54

We can only be grateful Emily saw the error of her ways and became a team player at last Grin

ChunkyPickle · 30/08/2012 15:54

Annoys me too. Kids pick this stuff up (although at least there is a female engine now)

I'm still fuming over Postman Pat's career day, where Julian merrily ignored the female vet, Mrs Goggins who's run a successful business for donkey's years, the lady who runs the station cafe, and only wrote down stuff about Pat, the teacher and I think Ted (!)

Casual sexism is alive and well on kiddie TV.

Tigresswoods · 30/08/2012 15:55

I live the Thomas concept but my God the stories are the dullest of dull.

WillNeverGetALicence · 30/08/2012 15:57

It was just on Nick Jnr, so about 3.30pm?

But Jolly, how can we raise enlightened and modern males who know that washing is equally men's work if they are exposed to such sexist characterisation like this?

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MagdalenaAlec · 30/08/2012 15:59
Shock

It would be interesting to know what the children have understood from the story!

Tee2072 · 30/08/2012 15:59

Oh please the entire isle of Sodor is a harsh dictatorship run by the Fat Controllor and his wife. I really think they need Amnesty International.

What's a little sexism compared to that?