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In thinking that if you have a 2.5" thick roll of £20 notes ..

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RubyVaultingGates · 09/08/2012 15:13

You probably don't need a Freedom Bus Pass.
Prat!

Sorry, but getting on the bus, claiming you've forgotten your Freedom Pass and then trying to pay a £2.50 bus fare with a freshly printed twenty pound note peeled ostentatioulsly from the thickest roll of the things I have ever seen and then having an argument with the driver about not having anything smaller does not garner any sympathy.

He did not appear to be disabled, was not in obvious pain, and actually ran for the bus.
I do understand the concept of concealed disablities, but really!

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HappyJoyful · 09/08/2012 15:26

YABU.. as others have pointed out Freedom passes are for over 60's (or maybe 65's) in London - and boy, they love 'em. My parents never tire of telling me how great it is they can pop on a bus or a tube and guess what it costs nothing!
They cannot however be used before 9.30.. hence they are referred to sometimes as the 'twirlies' (too early) by bus drives.

Dominodonkey · 09/08/2012 15:26

'I think if I was that wealthy I wouldn't have applied for the damned thing in the first place'

There is so much wrong with this statement I barely know where to start.

  1. You have no idea whether he is wealthy or not - that could be all the money he has in the world.

  2. If he is rich then he would have paid shed loads of tax and national insurance - why shouldn't he get something back?

  3. If he is as loaded as your little judgey pants would have you believe why is he getting the bus at all?

  4. You wouldn't - well, well done you. It's none of your business what he does.

FalseStartered · 09/08/2012 15:26

ffs, talk about getting all your judgeyness into one thread?

he was prob really embarrassed about having no change and said the 1st thing that came into his head. you know, to stop nosey fuckers on the bus tutting and raising eyebrows

valiumredhead · 09/08/2012 15:27

Not all disabilities are visible. My mum looks MUCH younger than 60, on a good day she could pass for late 40s. I think you need to examine why someone else's business makes you so cross.

HipHopSkipJumpomous · 09/08/2012 15:27

the cash bus fare in London if £2.30. It's not unreasonable for the odd passenger to pay with a note.

(I don't think anyone is implying your're jealous of his Freedom Pass Ruby Grin)

OwlLady · 09/08/2012 15:27

I havenever heard of this, where do you get them from and does it just apply to buses or trains as well?

valiumredhead · 09/08/2012 15:28

Yes my dad uses his on trains.

altinkum · 09/08/2012 15:28

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OwlLady · 09/08/2012 15:29

so where do you get them from? can you get them for teenagers?

sorry for total thread hijack

HipHopSkipJumpomous · 09/08/2012 15:30

Just eye-rollingly arrrrrrrgh, at the ever inventive ways the local population have of annoying bus drivers.
So you think he deliberately paid with a £20 to annoy the bus driver?

Maybe think about what's really pissing you off today OP cause this seems totally out of whack?

ThePigOnTheWall · 09/08/2012 15:30

Gosh - what a load of assumptions you've made there. So he's a fare dodging, system cheating criminal inconsiderate man who is lying about having a disability is he?

Maybe he had just been to withdraw his life savings to buy a car? Or about 400 other reasons why he might have cash on him

NettOlympicSuperstar · 09/08/2012 15:30

Them disabled folk get everything innit.

tethersphotofinish · 09/08/2012 15:30

So you believe he actually had a freedom pass and forgotten it, and you're angry because you think he shouldn't have one?

Or you think he was lying and you're cross because a stranger lied to a bus driver?

I think we should be told.

FalseStartered · 09/08/2012 15:30

wonder if his goat had a bus pass?

JennerOSity · 09/08/2012 15:31

I don't see why in this day and age you should not be able to pay with a note. Bus drivers have a till float so why not use it.
Maybe he has a fear of banks and that roll is all the money he has to last until he is dead - wouldn't be the first! That would hardly make him minted would it!
YABU

NettOlympicSuperstar · 09/08/2012 15:31

Maybe he's just loaded, and so what if he is, he's not breaking any rules.

tethersphotofinish · 09/08/2012 15:32

Perhaps he was a bank robber who'd been stood up by the getaway driver?

tethersphotofinish · 09/08/2012 15:33

I think it's disgusting that people have passes that they don't actually have.

HipHopSkipJumpomous · 09/08/2012 15:33

... he actually ran for the bus

BASTARD! Grin

ThePigOnTheWall · 09/08/2012 15:33

Perhaps he was a bank CEO and that was his lunch money

Petsinmyolympicpudenda · 09/08/2012 15:34

bank CEOGrin

OwlLady · 09/08/2012 15:35

so it could be any of these

People who are blind or partially sighted
2) People who are profoundly or severely deaf
3) People without speech
4) People who have a disability, or have suffered an injury, which has left them with a substantial and long-term adverse effect on their ability to walk
5) People who do not have arms or have a long-term loss of the use of both arms
6) People who have a learning disability that is defined as 'a state of arrested or incomplete development of mind which includes significant impairment of intelligence and social functioning'
7) People who, if they applied for the grant of a licence to drive a motor vehicle under Part III of the Road Traffic Act 1988, would have their application refused pursuant to section 92 of the Act (physical fitness) otherwise than on the ground of persistent misuse of drugs or alcohol.

so are you sure he wasn't visually impaired or deaf?

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RubyVaultingGates · 09/08/2012 15:35

I don't think he had a Freedom pass in the first place. I don't think he intended to pay for his travel. I think he felt that a roll of twenties and the claim of a forgotten Freedom Pass would cause the driver to let him on without paying.

As I said earlier context is everything. And the reaction of everyone on the bus suggests that they felt the same.

I knew that you, the MN hive mind would respond in exactly the opposite way to the passengers on the bus, and am fascintaed as to why that might be?

And I really don't begrudge anyone the Freedom pass, it really is a truly wonderful thing.

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RubyVaultingGates · 09/08/2012 15:35

fascinated even.

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