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To find this patronising

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pouffepants · 08/08/2012 21:59

I don't know, maybe others haven't experienced this, but during the many conversations that everyone is having about the olympics, I hear lots of people admit they're not massively into sport, quite like the fact we're doing well in the olympics, but are really looking forward to watching the paralympics. Usually followed by some kind of statement like 'that's where the real heroes are'.

Why would you watch the paralympics if you're not into sport? You aren't interested in competition of nations, you're even less likely to know the rules etc, which are often tweaked or entirely new, you have no appreciation for physical brilliance, you might just have a smidgen of patriotism. So frankly the only reason you are watching is to goggle at the disabilities as if it's some kind of freak show.

They are elite athletes who train as hard as the 'real' ones. Don't start telling me that this is inclusive sport for all abilities. No, these are the most talented physically disabled athletes. There are many non-talented, disabled people too who are as shite at sport as me. Shall we go and watch them overcome their obstacles just for the hell of it, because I'm certain that some people have to put as much effort into getting out of bed and functioning (if that) everyday, as a paralympic athlete who trains to their limits just as an able-bodied athlete does.

Please, if you're going to support these athletes, then treat them as serious sportsmen and women. If you're not into sport then it's not for you.

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WorraLiberty · 08/08/2012 22:02

I haven't seen this?

However, I did have a similar argument years ago with someone who said she wanted to volunteer at the games but only at the Para Olympics.

I asked her why and got the same sickly, "Because they are the real heros" response.

I just though it was bloody weird of her but then she always was a bit of a 'Look how wonderful and caring I am', sort of person.

PenisVanLesbian · 08/08/2012 22:03

I think its patronising of you to tell other people what they can watch and enjoy.

I'm not really into sport but I am enjoying the Olympics. Do you have a problem with that? If not, you are discriminating against the Paralympics yourself.

pouffepants · 08/08/2012 22:04

Spot on! Those are the people that say it.

But actually they're just feeling sorry for people, and think that's a good thing. Empathy is not the same as sympathy.

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biddysmama · 08/08/2012 22:04

yabu

ive not watched any olympics and wont watch any paralympics either, i cant think of anything more boring tbh.

biddysmama · 08/08/2012 22:05

yanbu even

pouffepants · 08/08/2012 22:06

if you're not into sport but are generally enjoying the spectacle then I don't give a damn, I'm talking about people who specifically focus on watching the paralympics for nonsporting reasons. And the only extra reason they have is that people are disabled.

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SmellsLikeWhiteSpirit · 08/08/2012 22:07

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MrsKeithRichards · 08/08/2012 22:07

Is it wrong for people to acknowledge that the competitors in the paralympics have got to the level of greatness in their chosen sport whilst coping with and working with a disability?

WorraLiberty · 08/08/2012 22:07

But then again, I can't see anyone watching the Paralympics anyway if they're not into sport at all?

They might give it a glance the same as the Olympics that are on now, but I doubt they'll watch it all through.

Then again they might...and that in itself might get them into sport.

I wasn't into football until I happened to watch a Euro match in the 90's and I became hooked until the end of the tournament.

YesIamYourSisterInLaw · 08/08/2012 22:07

I agree with penis snorts childishly
I'm not to proud to admit i have done a complete 180 on my view of the Olympics, so shoot me!
The Para Olympics ARE where the real heroes are, whats wrong with that? it's not like they are saying "oh bless em, look ain't they cute" or some other such shit

elliejjtiny · 08/08/2012 22:08

I'm not into sport either and haven't been watching the olympics apart from the opening ceremony. I'll be watching the paralympics though because my DS2 and DS3 are physically disabled and watching other physically disabled people achieving things gives me hope that DS2 and DS3 will grow up, have partners, jobs, kids etc.

WorraLiberty · 08/08/2012 22:08

That ^^ was me thinking out loud and changing my mind repeatedly by the way Grin

pouffepants · 08/08/2012 22:09

To be honest, I think that olympics should be longer, with the paralympics included. Of course they're still doing different events, but the success should be about the sport not the disability.

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Nancy66 · 08/08/2012 22:09

I can't see what your complaint it?

The first time in the history of the paraolympics, it looks like it will be a sell out.

Disabled athletes competing in front on huge audiences - that's good isn't it?

Sirzy · 08/08/2012 22:09

I think you are looking for issues that aren't really there and trying to be offended on other peoples behalf.

I am not a massive sports fan but I have loved watching the Olympics and will watch the Paralympics to as will many people who aren't normally into sport. Why is that wrong?

squeakytoy · 08/08/2012 22:09

I suppose if anyone was to say that they wont be watching the paralympics because it isnt the "real thing", they would be shot down too...

NanBullen · 08/08/2012 22:11

I'm not into sport at all, couldn't give a flying feck but I've been to the olympic park and cheered on team gb. The atmosphere was fantastic and i loved every minute.

Sorry, i didn't realise that the athletes would feel patronised, i do apologise Hmm Oh but hang on, i've only seen able-bodied athletes, so then it's ok then? But if i went to see the paralympic athletes (again with no clue as to the rules etc, just there to support them) then I would be goggling at their disabilities? Riiight, gotcha.

Jog on.

MrsKeithRichards · 08/08/2012 22:11

I'm not 'into' sport either. What constitutes into anyway?

That aside I've been hooked on the Olympics, much to my surprise. So I will be tuning into the paralympics. Am I not allowed?

PenisVanLesbian · 08/08/2012 22:12

A big part of sports, at the Olympic level, is about the limits of the human body, and the spectacle of people doing things that are the very edge of human capabilities. I can see why the paralympics is a draw for those reasons.
It's not "Aw look at the ickle paralysed folk, isn't it great", its more like "Wow, isn't it fucking amazing how the human body can adapt, and the wonderful things that all people can do".
It's not patronising, its awe-inspiring if I can be arsed to watch any

JumpingThroughHoops · 08/08/2012 22:14

Para wont get as much TV coverage.

I/we tried to get para tickets - sold out.

I can see mainstream sports all day every day. I would rather dedicate my time to less mainstream, as it happens, all sold out so I can watch everything that is televised.

win-win

pouffepants · 08/08/2012 22:14

Sirzy, you've loved the olympics and are now waiting to watch the paralympics. No problem with that at all. you don't need to be a sports geek to appreciate people in both spheres achieving.

I'm talking about people, who are either disinterested, or at best blase about the olympics, but then gush about the paralympics. The ONLY reason for the difference is gawp at the differences and say 'ohhh, how do they cope, aren't they amazing?' solely because they are disabled.

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SmellsLikeWhiteSpirit · 08/08/2012 22:17

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Kladdkaka · 08/08/2012 22:18

I'm not into sport and haven't seen any of the olympics but I love the paralymics. I find it awe inspiring to watch people perform at brilliant levels who have had to overcome great adversity to get there. In doing what they do they plant seeds of hope for one of the most marginalised minority groups.

I find the OP's view that people watch the olympics because they want to watch sport whereas they watch the paralympics because they want to watch a freak show somewhat Hmm. Makes me think we haven't come very far.

Sirzy · 08/08/2012 22:18

No it isn't, perhaps they have reasons to be more interested in the paralympics, perhaps they are genuinely in awe at the achievements and fights that so many of them have, perhaps they have disabled family and they see the athletes as an inspiration.

You are trying to see peoples enthusiasm as a negative patronising thing and find something to be offended about by people looking forward to a big sporting event.

GhostShip · 08/08/2012 22:19

Fucks sake, people can't be supportive without being accused of patronising.

Someone else would be complaining if we didnt watch it.

One thing about this site, people are always wanting to put a stamp on everything. SEXISM, RACISM, STEREOTYPING, PREJUDICE... The list goes on

I'm against all but use a bit of common sense.

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