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To think 11/12 year olds are too young to see "Ted" ?

197 replies

mrsobriain · 07/08/2012 22:02

My dd has been invited to a party where they are planning to go to see 'Ted' - this is a 15 and I think they are too young.

OP posts:
Krumbum · 08/08/2012 14:37

*similar! Bloody phine

glastocat · 08/08/2012 14:37

Well make sure to come back and tell us what you think once you have actually see it.

Mrbojangles1 · 08/08/2012 14:41

Krumbum um wtf i went to see magic mike last night 15rated firstly showed a semi errcit penis, then showed someone giving head followed by a orgy were every one is naked during the stipper sences was simulating oral sex on a women

But like you said how could that possibly effect a 13 year old why dont we write to gov and let them show it in schools (confused)

If you dont know what effect explicet sex an vilonce has on a young child then your a arse as well

Mrbojangles1 · 08/08/2012 14:43

The readon why we have rateing is because some pople are clearly not able to give boundries and if we didnt we would have people taking their four year old to see saw as we already have people trying to bring their four year olds to see 12a

Krumbum · 08/08/2012 14:45

Yes leisure time and school exactly the same Confused
I agree degrading sex or violence is damaging. But just sex and nudity there is no issue! Sex isn't some horrible thing it's natural and normal.
And if you think it'll have this awful effect on a 13 year old then it's gonna have some bad effects on a 15 year old! But that's ok cos the rules allow it then.

Krumbum · 08/08/2012 14:47

Yeah seeing a 12a that may have a swear word in it! Doesnt matter.
A tiny child seeing a violent horror! Terrify them. Obviously you can see how stupid what you've said there is.

Dominodonkey · 08/08/2012 14:49

I don't disagree with what Mr Bojanglesis saying on the whole but I do think you are being a bit hard on the OP. Plenty of 15 films are not so explicit as Magic Mike or Ted. As I said my very strict parents let me watch Dirty Dancing (15) at 11.
The OP is checking with mums who have seen it. The vast majority of people have told her it is not suitable. Job Done!

Mrsjay · 08/08/2012 14:49

Mrsbojangles there wasnt any need to be so nasty to the OP, we have managed to talk about this and peoples views on films without arguing (much)

Mrsjay · 08/08/2012 14:50

I kinda want to see magic mike now Grin

Krumbum · 08/08/2012 14:51

Domino agreed.

Dominodonkey · 08/08/2012 14:51

krumbum you still haven't answered my question from a while ago. Since sex and nudity do not bother you would you have no problem with a six year old watching explicit consensual sex on screen?

Krumbum · 08/08/2012 14:52

Nope no problem

Krumbum · 08/08/2012 14:54

Although its not something a six year old would encounter so it's hypothetical

Dominodonkey · 08/08/2012 14:54

Mrsjay Go! When I went it was like a massive hen party in the cinema. Lots of whooping and cheering. Was very much objectifying men.... Although the scenes that Bojangles mentioned are included they were generally amusing rather than explicit. I wouldn't have expected to see a 11 or 12 year old there though!

NoWayNoHow · 08/08/2012 14:55

Holy crap, Krumbum, are you being deliberately obtuse???

They're not teenagers, they're not 13, they are eleven year old girls

It is not appropriate for CHILDREN that young to watch films only just deemed suitable for teenagers 4 years older than them.

It is not appropriate for any parent to organise for a group of young children to go to watch said film, and certainly not without discussing it with the children's parents.

It's like you know you're wrong and backed into a corner, especially as you haven't even seen the bloody film, yet you just won't back down, will you?

As a result, you are coming off like Worst Parent of the Year 2012.

Can you not see how massively skewed your POV is compared to the rest of the adults on this thread?

Mrbojangles1 · 08/08/2012 14:55

Krumbum 12a can be mild or just got away with nit being a 15 my son wanted to watch a flim called kick ass its a 12a when i watched it their was no way it was sutible for a 12 year old let lone anyone younger the girls were dressed in scholl uniform or undewear and kept in ahouse to lap dance for old men then they would go inside their minds and fight to the death it was manga and not somthing any child should be seeing it was much more than a little swearing

Sorry op for being harsh

Dominodonkey · 08/08/2012 14:56

I could not disagree with you more Krum but at least you are consistent. Smile

Mrbojangles1 · 08/08/2012 14:59

Krumbum not being funny if they made 15a i telling you their would be very small children in that movie

When i worked in after school clubs you would be surprised what gilms children talked about their parents letting them watch on dvd and these children were 5-10 one child asked me if i had seen boys in the hood(shock)

When i confronted the mother she said yeah i know we watched it last night it was really good the child in question was 8

Mrsjay · 08/08/2012 15:00

krum you are talking like we are all pudes and being a bit precious about it, sex of course is anatural act letting younger teenagers watch explicit sex scenes when they can't process what they are seeing or hearing is different,

RubyFakeNails · 08/08/2012 15:01

MrsBojangles I assume you were attempting to say 'feckless' parents. From what I can make of your posts I think you are being totally out of line to the OP. You clearly haven't read the OP or her further comments.

Also who are you to make decisions for other parents and decide what is and isn't suitable. It is entirely a parents choice until it becomes a matter of the law. Also unless you and your child are completely naive, which at 13, I doubt, all of these films are available to watch online.

It is legal to take a child of any age to see a 12A, if it was particularly damaging or unsafe there would be much more concern and uproar about it. You can say I'm feckless as often as you like, even if it makes you sound like the DM, but I don't think it is acceptable to call people names just because you disagree with them. We were having an intelligent debate.

Furthermore, Kick Ass is and always was a 15, I saw it the day it came out as a 15.

Krumbum · 08/08/2012 15:02

When have I been backed into a corner. Just telling ya what I think. I don't think consensual is wrong or dirty.

Mrbojangles1 · 08/08/2012 15:06

RubyFakeNails sorry its not called kick ass it was some manga film it was a 12a

NoWayNoHow · 08/08/2012 15:08

I think you'll find that not a single parent on this thread has said that consensual sex is wrong or dirty.

But there is a very big difference between talking openly and honestly about sex and relationships, and in letting young children watch said consensual sex for entertainment purposes (not to mention some violence thrown in along with a hefty dose of "fuck", "shit" and "cunt" for good measure).

Surely you can see that difference?

RubyFakeNails · 08/08/2012 15:13

Thats fine Mrsbo, was just pointing it out.

The main issues are sex, violence and swearing.

NoWay I couldn't care less about swearing in films. Realistically the level of swearing in most films is equivalent to the level in our house.

Violence and sex are very subjective, I don't think there is a blanket rule for each. By 12 or 13 my dc would know certain things and find them funny or not be upset by certain violence so its at the parents discretion which I think is entirely fair.

NoWayNoHow · 08/08/2012 15:24

You can't separate the three when they're the combined elements in a film, so it's not really relevant to say which is more or less offensive/relevant to the children. You have to take this film in its entirety, and in its entirety, it's too adult for 11 year old children. I really am struggling to even get my head around the view point that it isn't, it seems so utterly alien.