To think that West Mercia Police need to take this poster off their website

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here

they have already apologised for another poster story but the poster on their site is, in my opinion, also pretty offensive.

"Alcohol features in two thirds of all rapes, we want people to enjoy the party season and let their hair down without letting their guard down"

where are their campaigns aimed at men or aimed at taking women seriously?

Mostly advice about drinks from strangers. I mean that's kinda nasty. That's why I ALWAYS take my drink with me to the toilet (or maybe i'm just super-paranoid)

that is the problem - the rapist needs to stop planning to rape people, only the rapist can stop it happening, as no one knows where or when the rapist will strike

so mame11, your top advice would be 'don't take drinks from strangers'

anything else? Or just that?

Of course the rapist planned it FFS, it's not like rapists accidentally find themselves sticking their penises into unconsenting women is it?

So she shouldn't have gone through the underpass alone then? Is there any scenario in which you don't end up blaming the woman?

You are aware that the greatest risk of rape comes from a current or former partner, right? (counts for 54% of all rapes)

More than 80% of rapes are committed by known men

Can someone get a solid statistic then?

ok Mame11, I suspect that you are just here for the rape tales or to cause arguments, You just joined and you're possibly getting some kick from this. You certainly don't have any persuasive argument to contribute so I think there's little point continuing to engage with you.

Known men - could be acquaintance, date, colleague, friend, family member or former/current partner

Former/current partner - means just that

What's wrong with them one stat partners other one men known

Can someone get a solid statistic then

no as most rapes go un reported due to attitude of the victim is to blame

Both are from Rape Crisis. A known man isn't necessarily a partner, current or former.

DF. Me just joining has nothing to do with this. I have lurked MN for a while. I am allowed to join up thankyou

My intention was not to cause arguments or anything but it is up to you if you do not wish to engage

why wouldn't the rapist take such an opportunity rather than if she were sober?

If you don't know the answer to that question then there is no point explaining to you that it is wrong on all levels

I do know the answer. Do you?

Try the Office Of National statistics mame - if you must.

The overwhelming majority of children, men and women - young and old - who are raped, are raped by people they know. At home, on the way home or connected to a workplace.

The overwhelming majority of children who are raped have not touched alcohol when first raped.

"there were several woman who thought if a woman gets drunk then she is making herself vulnerable for rape"

any person, man or woman, who is drunk, is making themselves more vulnerable towards any sort of attack, and I would be interested to hear anyone at all who could argue that point..

alcohol lowers your inhibitions, lowers your judgement, impairs your balance and does have an effect on you.. falling over, being mugged, getting beaten up, and yes even sexually attacked, are some of those risks..

a rapist is likely to use the fact that the woman was drunk as his defence, knowing that she may not be able to remember clearly what happened..

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This is just silly - mame11 is not sadly going to change their views on rape of woman not being the victims faulty in any case shape or form - however much material you throw at them showing that it is not.

I am going for the hide button just the same as I turned of the radio

"a rapist is likely to use the fact that the woman was drunk as his defence, knowing that she may not be able to remember clearly what happened.. "

he's still a rapist though. Her being drunk has no bearing on why/how he raped her. It's not a defence for sure. You can't defend the fact that you had non-consenting sex with someone by saying 'but this is why, see, she was so drunk she couldn't consent' - or at least you shouldn't be able to get away with that kind of defence.

Live in your ivory towers if you must. But these "rape myths" obviously have some truth to them otherwise they wouldn't be given as advice to women

Real life example as I posted earlier: Liquid E slipped in your drink by leaving the drink unattended/accepting a drink from a stranger? Well I take my drink with me everytime I go to the toilet and have I been drugged? No. Thus I was not raped

How can a myth be true?