....to want to ban page 3???

[DianaVreeland]

I remember seeing a page 3 girl for the first time when I was about 6 as my neighbour bought the Sun. I cringed inwardly, and haven't stopped feeling the same since. I have 5 nieces 3 nephews and my own 2 sons.....I hope they could grow up without seeing images of women objectified like this. Clearly I am not showing this to them but at some point I know they will. Does anyone else feel the same?

Yes, my point is tabloids are never ever IMO family friendly.

You don't do it in real life, EclecticShock but believe me, plenty of men do.

But I am on my way out so hopefully some people will come and explain better than me.

Yellow so the argument is now about who is more objectified? Isn't that missing the point though. Surely it should be an issue that we're all (men and women) are objectified if that's the point people are wanting to make.

Or is it like you. have said 'people can be up in arms about one thing or not another'... They can be up in arms about the nakedness if women but not particularly bothered about men?

And it's not okay for boobs to be hidden in a paper but it's ok to have headlines like some of us have seen which are really disturbing.

If so, I think that's hypocrisy, personally.

There's different points to the argument and you can get into all of them, GhostShip. It's not hypocrisy at all, I don't know how you can think that. I'm not defending Take A Break and that lot, I just haven't thought about them clearly. You don't have to have thought about every single issue to have an opinion.

Right, off out.

ecletic it makes me sad that people create these headlines to make money from some women's terrible pasts :(

The average man reading The Sun probably isn't a member of Mensa, let's be honest. The woman on the page is probably out of his league physically so she has to be done down and made out to be completely "thick" so that she is mentally inferior and not threatening to his masculinity. It's all depressing power play.

Late to the thread - so just going on the OP, but what is going on with so many people that their children have actually seen page 3.

If you don't want your kids to see that, then don't read crappy newspapers in front of them, or leave them around the house. They are shite anyway, read something else!

If you could tell me The Sun wouldn't pass comment in a juvenile way about a man's tackle...

There are examples where the page 3 lines are actively taking the piss out of the thick male readers too...

Basically cos the writers don't have a lot of respect for anyone else, especially their readership.

I'm surprised a newspaper has 'those' kind of picture in it!

I've no idea why people worry about pg3 and Children.

Since I sleep in the nude and DD2 Breast feed forever, I don't thing boobs are exactly a surprise to them.

They've seen other woman's in the swimming changing rooms, on the beach and BF their babies. Never been worthy of comment.

I dislike it because I think it is predicated on the ideas that a woman's physical form is her most important attribute and that woman's physical form is a matter for general (male) assessment.

I don't like the way some women's mags have tried to ape the lads mags with pictures of men.

And I don't like the Daily Mail nor its obsession with celebrities waistlines.

I can't say it bothers me, but it just seems a bit dated now?

If it must exist then have real women! I'd happily have my saggy, pendulous swingers in the full glare of the public eye for a few MILLION, would have to be a few million.

YABU....because FIL passed us a copy of The Sun when on a flight and I opened it to pages 2 and 3 without thinking.

My DS1, 3.5yo, solemnly informed me that "that lady has her boobies hanging out!"

It was the only light moment of the 4 hour flight.

but actually, YANBU, it's pathetic.

Widespread sorrow that today's female role models get their tits out and aren't intelligent... but then Katie 'Jordan' Price's first autobiography sold over a million copies and she's on her 4th one.

To be honest, i would not want a child to see page 3 and i do think it's absurd that it exists in 2012. But on the other hand, i would not want them to read the drivel in a tabloid either.

I find it ironic that some women will buy a tabloid and the biggest complaint they have is Page 3, how about all the utter shite news reporting it's filled with?

given that a very simmerler thing to page 3 paid for my house me going to uni and now my company i really dont have a problem with it.

at no time did i ever feel abused and i dont really care if any of the readers thought i was thick.

YANBU OP - it's completely backward.

TBH, I don't really care about young children seeing Page 3. I do care that young men and adolescent boys see it and it serves to reinforce a patriarchal culture whereby women are reduced to their bodies. The pressure on young women to conform to stereotypes, and the unrealistic expectations of young men as to what women should look like, are extremely damaging.

I suspect that the builders who insist on making inane or obscene comments to any woman or girl who happens to run or cycle past a site aren't reading the Telegraph or Guardian.

Christ, the amount of people stating opinions akin to 'boobs don't offend me, so why should page three? i breastfed my kids and go topless on the beach, how is this different?!' is shocking.

It's not just boobs ffs. It's not a celebrity caught topless sunbathing in the Maldives or Orlando Bloom's twitpic of Miranda Kerr breast feeding their son.

It's a young woman, pouting, pulling her knickers to one side and exposing herself with the sole purpose of providing hard ons over men's Weetabix.

That's not just boobs, that's not just nudity- it's complete objectification, and has no place in a national newspaper.

Hear, hear!

YANBU and I would be well up for a MN campaign.

LOL at the idea if you don't buy the sun your kids will never see it!

I'd be up for a campaign, too.

We could ask MNHQ?

I bet a lot of other organisations would get behind it too.

It would need a good slogan!