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....to want to ban page 3???

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DianaVreeland · 20/07/2012 16:07

I remember seeing a page 3 girl for the first time when I was about 6 as my neighbour bought the Sun. I cringed inwardly, and haven't stopped feeling the same since. I have 5 nieces 3 nephews and my own 2 sons.....I hope they could grow up without seeing images of women objectified like this. Clearly I am not showing this to them but at some point I know they will. Does anyone else feel the same?

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GhostShip · 07/09/2012 18:43

Expat - as I've already explained in this thread, I've done it before and I think you're really insulting comparing me to a prostitute.

I was proud of my body. Why couldn't I share it and make money if I want to? Because you don't like it? Because you can't cope seeing a boob?

Funny how in the same breath people bang on about how natural breastfeeding in public is and people shouldn't be scared to see boobs...

LadyBeagleEyes · 07/09/2012 18:44

I agree with ProudandScary upthread.
If MN is going to get behind any campaign the We Believe You and Rape Myths is far more important.
To me the Sun is a comic, a bit like Viz really but no one wants that banned.

GhostShip · 07/09/2012 18:45

And you think it's demeaning... I think it gives us power. If men are stupid enough to pay to look at our bodies... HA! Look at what we can do with them, look at how we can get such a reaction. That's power. It isn't weakness. We aren't meek and mild

missymoomoomee · 07/09/2012 18:46

Well said Ghost

expatinscotland · 07/09/2012 18:47

Well, that's how I think. Selling your body in such a way is stripping, hooking, what have you. Fair enough, if that's what you want to do, but don't try to glorify it as anything other than it is. I don't think it has any place in a national newspaper, either. Wanna go strip, then strip in a club, strip in a lad's or adult mag.

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scottishmummy · 07/09/2012 18:48

no glamour modeling doesn't empower me or you
may pay well for the individual lassie.and I have no desire to block that choice
but dont pretend it's in any way empowering for beneficial for anyone else

expatinscotland · 07/09/2012 18:48

True, LadyBeagle. I mean, it's a trash newspaper bought by chavs.

GhostShip · 07/09/2012 18:48

Tis a shame fellow women want to oppress us

emcwill74 · 07/09/2012 18:49

I'm sorry GhostShip but I really can't bear it when people assume that objecting to page 3 should somehow equate to objecting to BF. I am passionate about BF and yes I bang on about page 3. As I have already stated I firmly believe that page 3 discourages BF because it suggests that above all else boobs are primarily to look nice for men, not feed babies. Heaven forfend they might sag after BF! OUr problem with Page 3 is not boobs, but equality.

rockpaperscissors · 07/09/2012 18:49

I loathe that it that Pg3 is still allowed. It is vile and degrading. This should surely be banned. I also hate to see skimpily dressed female singers on TV, what kind of message are we giving our own children that this is considered acceptable?

scottishmummy · 07/09/2012 18:50

you takes the breaks and choices you have
I wouldn't ban glamour modelling
but I'd no want my lassies doing it.no way

expatinscotland · 07/09/2012 18:50

Laughed my arse off when I first heard that term 'glamour modelling'. LOL. Stripping and taking photos of it.

expatinscotland · 07/09/2012 18:52

I don't see it as oppressive not to have stripper photos in national newspapers. Says more about the newspaper, though, and the people who buy it. You want to go be wank fodder than do it, but I find it sad that some people are so pitiful they get a kick out of the power they have over someone as a sex object. But hey, more power to 'em, just don't think it should be in a national newspaper.

GhostShip · 07/09/2012 18:53

scottishmummy how the would you know? Really though? How do you know how empowered I was and felt?

I'm not some idiot who had false illusions.

Why can't women accept that we can feel powerful and confident by using our bodies? It's perfectly acceptable to be proud of our brains but not of our bodies.

scottishmummy · 07/09/2012 18:54

similar to the jordan is feminist argument,cause she makes lots money, businesswoman who exploits men etc
yes but what she et al sell is women as a product a commodity
commodity with stereotyped look eg slim,tanned,plastic or big titted and allusion of availability and sexual voracity

scottishmummy · 07/09/2012 18:58

fast route to loot,and happy to do it then yes that would be individual choice
but whilst you may individually feel empowered by your actions
I feel glamour modeling contributes to and maintains negative stereotypes of women

jimmenycricket · 07/09/2012 18:59

I don't think it's prostitution. I feel sorry for prostitutes when they have no choice but to go into the sex trade (and a lot of them don't).

Ghostship, I did some 'glamour' photos (years ago when my tits didn't have their own postcodes) and you know I don't regret it but they were or personal use only between me and my then partner. Something special to be shared.

I'd be horrified for my gran to be looking at my boobs or my brothers.

panicnotanymore · 07/09/2012 19:00

I don't have a problem with it. The girls are not exploited, they are paid and have the same choices are the rest of us in life. No one makes them do it. Similarly no one makes anyone buy the paper. Those who object are free to boycott it.

I don't buy the sun, as it is rubbish at every level, but I don't object to it.

thebeesnees79 · 07/09/2012 19:02

lmao @ "wank fodder"
Those who think Jordan is empowered and a good business woman make me fucking laugh. she has made her money out of stupidly big breast implants and getting her tits out for men to wank over. How is that empowering?
I would much rather people say that I made a great career for myself by going to university and gaining qualifications. all women have tits, some choose to keep them private others use them to make money. I would be devastated if my daughter chose the latter.

LadyBeagleEyes · 07/09/2012 19:04

In my misspent youth way back in the day I worked as a topless waitress in a bar in Amsterdam.
I was using drugs at the time, I'm not proud, and it wasn't exactly empowering but I do get where Ghostship is coming from.
It was about money at the end of the day, and me and all the girls I worked with looked at our clients with a kind of lofty disdain.
In fact it was the truest sisterhood I've ever seen, the laughs we had at the whole ridiculousness of our 'clients' still make me giggle to this day.
Not every woman who works in this sort of industry is a victim.

Saltycopporn · 07/09/2012 19:05

I know I asked this question before but nobody answered... How would the ban work? Would is or isn't allowed?

AllPastYears · 07/09/2012 19:07

Of course it should be banned. Can't think why anyone with half a brain thinks otherwise.

scottishmummy · 07/09/2012 19:07

I agree it's not all victims but it's not all yo yo sista either
if it's a choice freely made, by adult then their choice whether or not to get baps out
but also my choice not to be enraptured by benefits of glamour modeling

scottishmummy · 07/09/2012 19:09

no I wouldn't ban p3
it's knee jerk and draconian to ban it
I'd rather not live in an illiberal culture

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