to think a parent of a young child

[MurielTheActor]

should take them to the side when an older person is coming through with a full trolley.
I was coming out of supermarket along narrow walkway pushing my shopping when a father with a small girl (about 6 years) was coming the other way and just stood taking up the whole space so I had to go the side to let them through.

How are children going to learn to consider others when they are being shown that they have more rights than anyone else?
As a child I was constantly being dragged out of the way to let grown ups pass.
This really makes me so angry.
And don't get me started on children taking seats on buses and trains while adults are standing...
What is going on?

Really?

Quite honestly I think my 5 and 6 years olds need to sit on a moving bus and an adult, not elderly is more able to stand safely than they are.

I do move them to let people pass. Not drag them though.

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You could have stood your ground and waited for them to walk around you.

As for children on bus seats while adults are standing - what age are you talking about? It's harder for young children to stand as they can't reach the hand holdy bits that come down from the ceiling, so in a crowded bus with a child of say, 8 or younger, I would have chosen them to sit and I stand rather than the other way around.

Of course if they were preschool age I would have had one on my lap and the other on a seat.

The ? was for paradisechick

As a child I was constantly being dragged out of the way to let grown ups pass

The way you say this implies that it was not a fun experience for you. But you are happy to let other children be dragged around.

So you had to move. One of you would have had to move, why not you?

YABU

YABU

And mean :(

Yabvu

I don't think the OP meant small children should be standing on buses but surely it's not too much to ask that they sit on a parent's/carer's lap rather than take a seat next to them, especially if there are as young as 3?

Yes I see. Things are quite as bad as I thought they were.
It's about learning consideration and respect. Children give way to adults.
Don't see the problem.

Surely the polite and correct thing to do would be to say excuse me so they would move out of the way?

I have to echo what MammaTJ has said re the bus/train thing, it is sometimes dangerous for young children to be standing on a moving bus (as long as someone who isn't disabled or very elderly is having to stand instead). When we were in France recently the buses were often very busy and it was lovely to find how many 'grown ups' would insist that my 4 year old DS should sit down for him to be safe. Now that's manners!

Well I dont believe the world should revolve around children either. The supermarket probably made the doors the size they are to allow for 2 trolleys to pass through at the same time.....not one trolley and a child....but that's the dad at fault, not the child

Why didn't you just say excuse me, if they were in the way?

Too right! Don't let children forget that they are second class citizens, the little bastards.

You don't see thd problem even when it's spelled out for you?

Hmmmmm

there they

Why shouldn't a child sit while a healthy adult stands? I'd always make myself and DS move for an elderly/disabled/injured/pregnant person, but otherwise he has just as much right to sit down as anyone else!

I remember once having to ask some old lady to move a box so my DD, then age 6 could sit down. She said 'Oh no, it's precious I can't' I told her if she though it was more precious than my DD, she was very much mistaken!!

That DD is now 17 and would automatically give up her seat nowadays.

It's about learning consideration and respect

Yep, and the best way to learn about consideration and respect is if others show you consideration and respect.

LucieMay It's not always possible to tell the state of someone's health just because they're not visibly aged or carrying a stick or have a limb in plaster or a large bump.

I should have added that of course I was already standing on the buses otherwise he would have been on my lap - that would also been good manners rather than him taking up anyones sit of course!

YABU you don't have more rights than a child. It's common courtest to move to let someone through perhaps they didn't see you, perhaps they are just ignorant rude people, either way I'd have dealt with it with a loud 'excuse me please', directed to the person who was in the way (you can actually speak to children you know).

As for the bus thing you are being ridiculous bus seats are first come first served and only the elderly or disabled should take priority. And young children need to stand more than young adults as they are smaller and more prone to getting squashed/falling over/going flying down a moving bus.

Well in that case the person should ask to take someones seat then surely - its not rocket science!

I think there are many children around who do not have respect or consideration for others however there are many 'older' people who also do not, my nan was one of them who thought everybody owed her something and was downright rude to people at times.