to say loudly "If you just let me get off, it will be easier for you to get on!"

[Wheezo]

What is it with people who try and get on a packed tube/train BEFORE the people getting off at that station have actually managed to leave the train? What is the point? Is there anyone out there who would admit to doing this? Would love to understand why - defies logic to me because surely once everyone is off there is more space for others to get on rather than getting on and doing a strange dance shoulder jousting the departing passengers

Oh and other rules are if people on the train already have to get off to let others off the train because it's too packed for them to get off don't push past those people to get on the train FFS - why should they be punished for their politeness.

Am dreading the Olympics.

I did this years ago in shitty Addington and got a "fuck off, Grandma" for my troubles. I actually thought that was quite clever and quick of him

YANBU.

But I thought this was going to be a rude one since I read it "easier for you to get it on"

:)

YANBU, a bit of patience from some people would make it all easier. I am thrilled that my due date is five days before the Olympics starts as I think labour will probably be easier than getting to work during that time!

Some people do it because they don't know they're not supposed to, and haven't really thought about the logic or politeness of it. Some people know perfectly well, but want to sneak on as quick as they can to grab the last remaining seat before someone gets in through the next door along and takes it.

It's the same as people bargeing past you in shop doorways - erm, let me out and you'll be able to get in much easier!!

Other train 'rudeness' that used to bug me was those who'd been sat down all the way suddenly jumping up at the final stop to get past those who'd been stood up all the way. It's the last stop dickhead, we all have to get off here, just wait your fucking turn and show some manners!

the thought of going on a packed tube makes me woosy i really couldnt cope in london, when we visited we walked everywhere london is hooge

I don't understand how people dont get that you're supposed to let people out before they go in. It's common sense. Idiots.

Can never understand why people crowd round the front of a lift. How are you suppose to get out with a buggy without ploughing into them. Just stand to the side.
And those people who strike up a conversation in supermarket doorways. Grrrr!

Oh Gail you poor poor woman just even having to get on a tube pregnant during this weather. Are people being at all nice and giving up their seats?

I came to the conclusion when pregnant on the tube that I actually had more chance of being offered a seat when I had make-up on and earrings in then actually looking as pasty and tired and as ill as I felt - was quite a horrible revelation really but it did seem to be true in my case.

Jubilee line is fucked at the best of times - there's no way it is going to cope with the Olympics. Canary Wharf might as well shut up shop and set up some kind of helicopter service for the traders and a few middle office staff and let the rest work from home.

I've started glaring and bellowing at tube '. EXCUSE ME! Will you PLEASE let us get off first'. And at people who won't move down the carriage. It gives me a self righteous glow for the whole day.

Indeed fruity - lift botherers are closely related to the train crammers. Thinking about it our nursery external door is up a steep concrete slope and quite often the door opens and a parent/child/sometimes buggy are standing there and instead of letting you get out they try and walk into you to get you to reverse down the concrete slope (so long that it turns a corner and doubles back on itself) and I have to stand my ground and say (nicely - because they're nursery mums & dads so you'll probably have to see them at least twice a week) "Probably easier if I come out first and then there's space for you" - and they just look blankly at you.

Yes, people who won't move down the carriage are just as irritating. One of my friends used to get people to move by identifying specific obstructors - if a man in a purple shirt was blocking the carraige for everyone else, he'd say "could the man in the purple shirt move down, please" very loudly. Apparently people always moved.

If I'm getting off a train with luggage and someone tries to barge on before I've got off, I try to run over their toes with my suitcase. But then I am a cow.

Oh, I so know where you're coming from. I got off the tube last week to be greeted by a tight semi-circle of people, none of whom wanted to let me through . I'm 20 weeks pregnant and cranky with it, so just loudly said 'Excuse me, I'm going to be sick' and aimed for the weak link. They scattered .

I think some people leave their brains at home when they travel on the tube. Twats. I'm going to keep cycling as long as physically possible I think.

I commuted in central London for years. People are remarkably idiotic about getting on and off tube trains. I did sometimes just stop dead, as people swarmed on the platform so there was no way of getting off, in the middle of the doorway saying "if we get off there'll be more room for you" or "Wait!". I once got slapped by some bloke, though, which made me laugh - very loudly in his face. He did look vaguely ashamed. Besuited too, looked v respectable. Tosser though.

Yes, people who won't move down the carriage are just as irritating. One of my friends used to get people to move by identifying specific obstructors - if a man in a purple shirt was blocking the carraige for everyone else, he'd say "could the man in the purple shirt move down, please" very loudly. Apparently people always moved.

Uh Oh, confession time

Last time I was on the train I was an aisle hogger, but in my defence, I was stood all the way on a 3 hour journey, had a shit load of sensitive paperwork work stuff in the overhead thingy just above me, had somewhere to hold onto and a very nice lady in the seat behind me who let me use her fold down table for my water etc.
I seriously didn't want to move further down, but did explain nicely rather than just ignore

Bless you for asking Wheezo, some people have been lovely, some are VERY interested in their books and don't see the huge bump right in front of their faces

I think Scrambledsmegs has the best idea and as soon as the tube/lift doors open we should just announce loudly that we are going to be sick and watch them move aside!

I've never known anything like using the tube in London. Like MrsJay, I'd rather walk than suffer the insane pushing and every man for himself attitude that seems the norm. That's a luxury you can afford as a tourist though - most people wouldn't have a choice if you live and work there.

That's before the BO armpits in your face, people eating smelly food, the heat and miserable faces everywhere.

YADNBU.

I don't move down. Two reasons:

1. I'm generally going no more than four stops at most and it's exhausting to battle up and down for such a short journey;

1. I'm a midget and can't reach the overhead poles.

I do flatten myself against the sides to make sure my fellow commuters know I'm sorry for existing though.

I'm so glad I don't have to use trains and all that malarkey. If this is how bad they are now, how on earth are they going to cope during the Olympics? Haven't they thought about this...

GailTheGoldfish and other pregnant ladies, you really should just ask if you would like a seat on the tube. That's what I did, and it gets nicely around that "I can't see you/my book is so interesting" thing. I always got given a seat after asking (rarely got offered one without asking even when I was enormous). I think that a lot of people probably don't notice and some don't want to offend by offering a seat to someone just in case they aren't pregnant, but no one can plead ignorance when you've asked them directly.

Sadly whitewidow I suspect the Olympics is going to be an utter travel farce. My very nice boss has said I can work from home for a lot of the time because I have to be back to pick up from nursery at 6 so I think I would have to leave at 4 to get there (for what is usually a 35 - 40 min tube journey) and once you deduct all the time you've spent sniffing other people's armpits to get there and back there's about 4 hours left of actual work time so he'll get more out of me working all the time I would have been travelling. Others will not be so lucky.

Limited - my SIL is of shorter stature and cannot reach overhead so I do realise why some people need to loiter near the doors just to have something to hang on to.

Also when pregnant I realised the much maligned yoof of today are actually lovely - it was consistently teens/early 20s who stood up for me. Not once was it a curmudgeonly city suit man.

Although I have now cottoned on to the fact that in a face off for a seat, if you offer it your competitor 9/10 they say no so you get to sit down AND look polite.

I did this once but in my defence, everyone else had got off very quickly and this one woman woke up far too late so missed her stop.

The metro was incredibly crammed that day and it's an automatic line so I'd actually been on the train, had to get off at the station to let people behind me get off and then the doors closed before I could get back on (and actually the doors closed before everyone got off and before anyone got back on). There were loads of people waiting on the platform.

When the next train arrived the bloke next to me told everyone loudly to get off really quickly as others had got trapped on the train, and then loads of us literally threw ourselves onto the train before the doors closed. This one muppet woman woke up too late and complained loudly the whole way to the next stop

But generally I'm very polite and stand to the side to let people off, as as I've said, I also get off the train to allow people behind me to get off unlike lots of oblivious tourists who can't hear you saying "excuse me"

Although i have never used the tube i can say that the even more annoying thing is when people stop and chat at the top/bottom of an escalator. Its not as if anyone can stop and wait behind them!!

Oh yes paper that really annoys me. Then they get annoyed when you bump into them

I do that.

Every single fucking morning at kings cross I shout if you would kindly just wait til I get on, you can get on
It is sometimes followed by you utter dickhead depending on the circumstances.

So if you are ever at kings cross (victoria line) at about 8:55am and hear a mad woman shouting obscenities at fellow commuters, it's me.

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