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to refuse to explain for the upteenth time that we homeschool and that is why we are sometimes out and about during the day?

115 replies

kitsonkittykat · 22/06/2012 12:37

I have already explained many times that we homeschool, and that is why we are able to pop out at lunchtime, and that we do not have "many days off", and they do "go to school". Am I unreasonable to refuse to explain myself over and over again to the same people?

OP posts:
threeleftfeet · 24/06/2012 00:39

kitsonkittykat there's a lot of great stuff on mumsnet. This was my favourite today

AIBU though is frequented by some very argumentative people (among others of course!) Really not worth posting anything that means anything to you here IMO. Good for a bit of fun, but other than that, best to post elsewhere.

I hope it doesn't put you off the whole of mumsnet, there are many different boards here, and they attract different people.

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 00:40

What a load of utter crap pendeen.

My ds never receive bruises and abrasions when I educate him. He doesn't need to be restrained when I am Educating him. He has not continued to develop MH issues as he was when in mainstream education.

Please don't talk to me about risks. You haven't got a clue.

Pendeen · 24/06/2012 00:47

Nonsense.

Your interpretation of my use of the word 'risk' is juvenile in the extreme.

Go away, sit down quietly and try (please try) to think about what you have written.

Then you may realise what you have written is, nonsense.

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 00:51

Why so rude and aggressive?

You are clueless in the extreme as to how being in MS school affected my ds. Have you read my posts? If you did you will see that I have one child in full time MS school who is thriving.

Clearly things must have been pretty desperate and extreme for me to pull my child with multiple SN out of the school system.

How can you presume to make a judgement on this and DS is beyond me.

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 00:53

Oh and please do feel free to clarify what exactly is nonsensical about my posts?

belleMarie · 24/06/2012 00:55

Hats off to you op. You sound like a brilliant mum doing the very best for her kids.

Pendeen · 24/06/2012 00:58

Why did you assume my post was addressed to you?

Who are you to call me "aggressive" and "rude" when you had the puerile temerity to write " What a load of utter crap pendeen "

Who are you to judge the merits and logic of my post with such an irrational diatribe as the one above?

What have I said about your particular situation?

Nothing.

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 01:05

I home educate my child. You told us that those of us who HE our children are taking risks with their educations and futures and that we would have to explain that to our children in the future. Are you saying that was not addressed to me?

You sound incredibly narrow minded and ignorant. I do wonder what experience you have that qualifies you to make such extreme statements and use such emotive language when describing how I choose to educate my child.

Tell me what experience DO you have of children with significant and multiple SN within a mainstream school setting?

Oh and I will interpret the word "risk" any way I please when it is MY child who is being injured, bruised and terrified EVERY SINGLE DAY because he simply cannot cope with the constant onslaught of sensory overload that cannot be controlled in a MS school environment and when my child is learning to manage his conditions with aggression and escaping from school to run a mile home, across busy roads with no traffic awareness at the age of 6!

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 01:07

Where have I been irrational? I thought your post was utter crap and said so. How is that irrational?

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 01:10

In fact putting SN aside even, what experience DO you have of ANY home educated child that allows you to make such extreme statements of fact about their futures being put at risk by their parents?

Pendeen · 24/06/2012 01:15

You used insulting language.

Irrational.

You assumed my comments were addresed to you.

Irrational.

You compounded your (very basic) errors with further irrational and unfounded assumptions.

My post was not addressed to you but the OP.

My post was straightforward and rational in it's tone and content. Offering sound comment and reasoned advice.

To the OP. Not you.

Clear?

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 01:20

There are only two of us on this thread who HE. I do not agree that it is irrational to presume that your post wax not addressed to both of us. Perhaps you should have clarified that. A little more attention to detail required perhaps?

Oh and you didn't answer my question as to what experience you have that allows you to tell people who HE their children WITHOUT SN that they are taking risks with their children's future? It's a massive thing to say to a parent, you need to back it up.

EchoBitch · 24/06/2012 01:22

Umpteenth time.

IMcHunt · 24/06/2012 01:23

Ha! I get this a lot. I just set 7yo DS on them, and he'll pontificate about chess openings, cloud formations and their usefulness in forecasting weather, or World War 2 for as long as they'll listen...
Pendeen.
I have chosen to educate my DCs at home. That is my decision and my responsibility. My just-7yo can multiply in the hundreds in his head, and has read The Silmarillion at least 10 times, of his own volition. He's just about to finish what would be yr 2 and, based on a SAT paper I gave him, is working at least at a high level 4 in maths. He has reading and comprehension ages of over 11. He can beat most adults at chess, has beautiful handwriting, and can recount, in minute detail and chronological order, the major battles of WW2. He can speak basic French (they both can, in fact), and understands how to decline nouns in Latin. I found him recently cross-referencing a modern atlas with an Old-Testament era map in a history book, and cross-referencing the text in the book with the Bible, then recreating the event in Lego. He's memorised the line of succession of the kings and queens of England all the way from William the Conqueror to the present day. He can also make a banging cup of tea. So tell me, were I to decide to send him to school, that that would be less of a risk to his education and future than home ed is.
I am not, by the way, anti-school. I don't judge anyone who chooses to educate their child that way (why on earth would I). I do, however, fail to see why I, or the OP, or any other HEer should be judged for choosing to educate their child their way. Or, in the case of my child, more specifically, HIS way.

Pendeen · 24/06/2012 01:26

There are many on this thread. Detail is perhaps not your strong point?

Your assumptions led you into a logical blind alley.

Have the good grace to admit you were jumping to conclusions.

My comments are fair and reasonable - home education involves risks and those risks have to be evaluated by intelligent and rational people.

I'm afraid your posts do not show much evidence of this however you may indeed be educated and rational.

I hope for your DC's sake that is the case.

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 01:28

"Reasoned advice"? I saw no advice and I saw no reasoning.

I saw statements.

You have made these decisions.
You don't have to worry about explaining to other people.
You are taking risks with your children's futures.
You will have to explain to them in the future.

Where's the reasoning. I would LOVE to hear some, have asked a couple of times now.

Pendeen · 24/06/2012 01:28

That was to akaemmafrost not IMcHunt however I am glad to see the acceptance of responsibility is clear.

EchoBitch · 24/06/2012 01:28

Why is it risky to HE if you are following the national curriculum and educating your DC?

What's the problem?

Carry on OP and i'm sure your DC will be fine.

Pendeen · 24/06/2012 01:30

Quite clear and reasoned.

Try again, read slowly and you may see the logic.

IMcHunt · 24/06/2012 01:30

Pendeen, surely ANY system of education involves risk. The question is not whether parents should be prepared to take the risk of HE, but rather, which set of risks they should be prepared to take. There are as many risks involved in devolving your responsibility to educate your children to someone else, be it the state system or a private school, as there are in home education. The risks are different, sure, but they're there nonetheless.

EchoBitch · 24/06/2012 01:31

School education has risks too.

Who are we to judge?

And i hate that patronising ''hope for your DC's sake'' stuff.

IMcHunt · 24/06/2012 01:32

the 'devolving your responsibility' was not meant to be inflammatory, by the way. It's just that, in the education act, it's the parents' responsibility to educate their children.

EchoBitch · 24/06/2012 01:34

I hope the School system doesn't damage your DC Pendeen.

I'm sure it won't.

But i do hope it doesn't.

akaemmafrost · 24/06/2012 01:35

Again, please tell me YOUR personal experience that allows you to make such extreme and emotive statements to HEing parents? You can carp at me all you like pendeen you have made an utter fool of yourself on this thread and can not substantiate your OP.

Tell me about the "risks" as you understand them. I am always open to others points of view when it comes to education hence having one child at home and one in full time school. Clearly my attitudes to education are somewhat more flexible than yours and I feel I have provided good explanations as to my choices for my dc.

EchoBitch · 24/06/2012 01:36

HaHa

DC Pendeen sounds like an extra in Police,camera,action.Grin

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