to want more advice! more traffic here. my dd is 10, started periods 3 months ago at 9. Has had ten days of severe cramps but no bleed.

[piratecat]

original thread in preteens

her first period was 10 days of heavy bleed, clots, the lot, with the same pain.

the next two were lovely normal periods, 28 day ones. No Ponstan or painkillers(Mefanimec acid) required.

Was taking the Ponstan when these pains began as they were so bad (this is day 41 ish), later told by 2nd gp we saw a week ago, this in itself may have stopped the bleed. Stopped the Ponstan one week ago, but same cramps and still no bleed.

Pain is crippling at night, at bedtime and i have had to lie down with her for ten nights now to soothe her to sleep. Has had every painkiller going to no avail.

How can there not be any blood. Where has it gone??!!

Sorry to post here, but i thought there would be lots of ladies out there who may have had this type of period, or irregular cycles, with no bleed just pain, to help me understand that part. thanksx

yes not sure why she has to have another mri really if they want to take it out anyhow. maybe they hope they can save it? it's knackered anyhow so of no use to her.

my poor baby. bloody hell.

here's some xxxxxxxx for all you kind ladies. thankyou mn xx

Your poor baby is right :( And poor you, this must be tough.

She will be right as rain soon though, and it will be because you've taken such good care of her and ensured that the doctors did too.

x

I don't normally post for this kind of thing, but wishing you and your daughter very well. So sad. Bless her.

Have only just read this, hope everything will be sorted out for her asap.

I really hope it's not serious. Well done for sticking to your guns. Sending you hugs and good luck.

Oh how grim, I am so sad for your poor DD, read the thread and was shocked at your GP's attitude towards a ten year old in such dreadful pain. I am sorry the news isn't better and that she needs to have the ovary removed. I have a good friend who had an ovary removed due to a massive cyst, and her other ovary was fine, she got pregnant very easily at 40, it didn't dent her fertility. Hope that all news from now on is as positive as it can be. to you and your dd.

pirate I am so sorry how its worked out but as helly says, she will be fine with one ovary. Thank god you got her seen when you did. I am facing this with our surgery as well, similar issues not quite the same, but we were told it was nothing. I've heard today that our consultant has written to our GP so I am waiting to get in touch with her. I have to say though, our situation was not as potentially dangerous as yours but they are so quick to write off kids in pain, its shameful. How quick will they do op? Thinking of you both.

MRIs are more comprehensive & give a very clear picture of the problem area - they are extremely useful for medics & surgeons.
Best not to discuss the MRI procedure before you get to the scanner suite with your DD - the scanner suite staff will be skilled at knowing how to explain things, & will be used to reassuring patients of all ages.
At 10 she's likely to be quite petite so hopefully she should have enough space around her when lying in the scanner to stop her from feeling claustrophobic.
The staff can talk to DD via a microphone during the MRI & she can talk back IIRC; sometimes they put relaxing music on.
Then of course you will be there with hugs after the scan for being brave - hope all goes well :)

Piratecat your poor poor dd. have been lurking but not posted til now. Nothing to add that others haven't said but wanted to send love and

Thinking of you and your brave little girl xx

Delurking to send you encouragement and support. I hope the hospital have got her pain under control and she feels reassured that something is now being done. Remember this is probably a lot harder for you than for her. It sounds as if you are alone at the hospital - is everything under control at home? I think you said up thread that she has no siblings and no Dad - do you have someone who can look after anything which needs looking after/ bring you clean clothes etc? It is very difficult finding yourself in hospital for a longer stay than anticipated.

Good luck and thinking of you. x

piratecat - this must be a terrible shock for you. No words of wisdom, just wanted to wish the best to you and your little girl.

Hope all goes well today and they manage to make her more comfortable. Thinking of you both.

hi, just dropping in. heatfelt thanks to all your posts.

she has exp of mri's, so was ok yesterday, she is only hacked off and nervous about todays mri becuase if the cannula going in. She has real fear of needles, and is pooping herself, cos despite the numbing cream and the cold sprays she always climbs the walls

I am alone here yes, but have support via phone, from 3 or 4 very good friends. My mum is on a plane as I type, so looking forward to her being able to take my car back to our home which is a fair distance.

Have no idea when or if the op will go ahead, the mri isn't till 2.30. PLus the op will be done at Bristol, as we are in south Devon, and no hosp here does this op.

will find out more today. Feeling much more positive today, had a shower and found some shampoo, tho not having conditioner was an intersting experience!!! (none in the shop).

x

oh just to ad, the pain has all but gone, so that's such a bonus. weird but good. it could be because the ovary is involved obviously in a cycle, and is calm for now (that's my thinking anyhow) but sort of makes sense iyswim.

I hope you have some help soon - although you have got a lot of info here, such a wide array of possibilities could leave you baffled and probably scared.

This sounds like me, 23 years ago. I started periods early (in fact after an accident to the parts concerned, which may or may not have been coincidental, I will never know). I can't remember too much detail, thankfully, although I do remember it feeling like hell. Flooding, absolute exhaustion to the point of being in bed for days, 12 day periods, pain. And my Mum got kind of fed up and unsympathetic quite quickly, as if I was doing it on purpose at 11 and/or promiscuous (!) I was very scared of birth due to this history but in fact it seemed more light relief compared to what I had experienced with periods. I've spoken to others who had problems and they have said similar things.

Went on the pill at 17 and then depo provera at 19, and both of these seemed to be magic solutions as I felt so much better. But post-pregnancy, I am now waking up to fairly ingrained hormonal problems and probably PCOS and endometriosis. By messing about with the endocrine system I had stuck my fingers in my ears to the issues, and they've returned to haunt me now. Not only are the sex hormones very out of kilter, insulin, adrenal glands, progesterone balance and cortisol are b***ed, and that has an awful effect on mood, PMT, all sorts - essentially I can feel convincingly pregnant every month with seesawing blood pressure and nausea. I consulted a hormone specialist, which so far is expensive but informative, and had a hormone test, and am shortly to start on a plethora of supplements which I hope will work.

While painkillers may help, I don't think they can do much for hormones, which is why they are probably not doing a great job. I would definitely try to look into endometriosis and PCOS as soon as possible, both by self-informing and via medical assistance, and if you get short shrift about them in a young person, then go to another GP until you do get somewhere. I would have done anything to save myself this experience at the age I was.

Oh God, just read the latter posts of this thread, should have done so earlier. What a shock. But really, really hope she is feeling better quickly.

Will be thinking of you this afternoon and checking in later. Bristol has a good reputation, I think she will be very well cared for there.

I am an incredible wimp with a fear (almost phobia) of needles but have had a canulated MRI, it really wasn't bad at all. Wishing you all the best.

Hope all is going well x

Have just looked back at the beginning of this thread and it was interesting to see how randommess was pretty much spot on from the beginning. Shows the value of the Internet (and Mumsnet in particular) - a single GP has limited experience, but you ask a 1000 or 10,000 people on an Internet thread and someone will have had a similar experience.

I think, sadly, what it shows is that they discount hormonal problems in girls as being "too young" when clearly they are not!

Thinking of you both and hope the MRI gives you more answers.

Hi Piratecat.

I really feel for you and your dd. My dd is only 9 and has precocious puberty.

I can totally empathise with the difficulty of getting people to take you seriously with regards to hormone issues in one so young. I questioned if I was overreacting when I kept going back to gp when she was 5. Had she been 12 any fool would have suggested she was starting her periods. But I started to feel like they had me down as munchausens by proxy, by the time we finally got confirmation that I was right.

And that feeling of "my poor baby, she is too young for all of this", is so overwhelming. Stay strong, you have done a wonderful thing for your daughter by getting it investigated further. Hopefully the care she receives at this hospital will continue to be good and will get the best possible outcome for your daughter.

The other important thing is to take care of yourself so you can take best care of heryour dd. Now is the time to call in all those favours from friends etc. and any decent person would do what they can to help in a situation like this.

Wish I was nearer to help you out. Keep posting, as you know mn is amazing at times like this. Xx

Oh gosh, what a shock for you. Hope you both sleep ok tonight.