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AIBU to think that women should not have to be discreet when breastfeeding?

633 replies

lalaland3008 · 13/06/2012 18:57

I'm not saying that anyone should purposely flop both boobs out into someones dinner. But it makes me really mad that some people think women should have to be discreet when feeding their baby, sit in a corner or breastfeeding 'booth'.

I also think a breast is just not comparable to a penis to a vagina and if people are offended because they see breasts as purely sexual then that is their own problem.

Noone would object to me sitting in public drinking my coffee or feeding my baby a bottle of cows milk yet people find breastmilk offensive.

I'm not bitty mad I lasted 2 weeks breastfeeding but it still makes my blood boil that it is seen as controversial by many.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Gwlondon · 16/06/2012 08:07

Haven't read the whole thread. Sometimes I have been at someone else's house and they have tried to persuade me to go to the bedroom etc! I move away from where people mainly are but I try not to be persuaded to be out of sight. But when you are starting out you do end up doing as you have been asked.

It is hard. When my DS was young my DH didn't want my FIL to see and it was such a palaver to hide from him all the time. PIL stayed three weeks! Now I don't bother hiding from my FIL to feed. Next baby it will be different from the outset knowing what I know now. Baby comes first.

So OP YANBU.

Whatmeworry · 16/06/2012 09:27

Breasts aren't sex organs. They are erogenous zones, sure. They're not sex organs though, any more than a man's nipples are sex organs

Of course dear.

Wet T shirts, Page 3 pix, boobs all over ads and Porno, and men tailing to your chest are all about people taking wholesome delight in breasts as baby feeders, aren't they?

Dont forget to turn off the reality distortion field on you way out now..

sc2987 · 16/06/2012 09:33

Whatmeworry here, for your perusal, is a list of female sex organs. Please note that breasts are not on the list because they are not involved in creating a baby.

Definitions matter, there is a difference between an area which can be involved in sex for pleasure (which as numerous people have pointed out can be almost anywhere) and a sex organ.

sc2987 · 16/06/2012 09:33

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_organ#Summary

sc2987 · 16/06/2012 09:36

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erogenous_zone

Oh no, looks like we'll have to cover our entire body in public!

Whatmeworry · 16/06/2012 09:46

Sc don't spend too much time under ethereality distortion field, it can cause permanent damage you know.

Oh....

McKayz · 16/06/2012 09:48

Whatmeworry, it is people like you that put women off breastfeeding in public.

sc2987 · 16/06/2012 09:51

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sex_characteristic#In_humans

Oh, and here. Breasts don't jump off that list for most humans, they're just culturally obsessed with them here.

Guess I'd better make sure nobody can see my waist-to-hip ratio, in case they get offended. Muʻumuʻus it is then!

sc2987 · 16/06/2012 09:51

Sorry:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sex_characteristic#In_humans

And that was mu'umu'us

ReneandGeorgetteMagritte · 16/06/2012 09:55

Only read OP

I think YANBU, but having said that, I was never intentionally discreet, and never made to feel like I should be either.

Some women do actually prefer to tuck themselves away though- equally they shouldn't be made to feel inadequate for wanting to do this

StealthPolarBear · 16/06/2012 09:58

Whatmeworry, re-read your posts! You come across as incredibly smug and patronising - not good in a debate btw.

pantylace · 16/06/2012 10:15

You lot can get as sarcy about erogenous zones as you like. ~Fact is, men (and some woman) love breast and they see them as more than simply feeding organs. I'm just wondering if they're not sexual why the hell everybody has had to cover up all this time?

SPB, I have read what other mother's have said, and I'm saying they can be as discreet as they possibly can be. There is no need to take your top off to breast feed. Sure baby may unlatch or look around, so you cover your nipple when that happens, or you can just let those milk can swing and let everyone ogle. I don't much care what you do, by I will ogle you too if you're being showy, make no doubt about it.

So many precious mums around. FGS.

StealthPolarBear · 16/06/2012 10:38

Why would you ogle a woman struggling to bf? What an awful thing to do.

StealthPolarBear · 16/06/2012 10:47

Actually do you know what.behave in whatever way you think best, but know that the majority of decent human beings are judging you on your lack of baasic manners. And I will continue to feed my children - a necessity - in the way I feel best and if a few people believe that I am a scarlet woman for accidentally showing some flesh, I will live with that.

OhNoMyFanjo · 16/06/2012 11:56

pantylace I think you are getting a bit confused, they are seen as forbidden and sexual because they are covered up not tge other way round.

WhiteWidow · 16/06/2012 11:58

I assume you all walk around with your boobs out when it's not then?

WhiteWidow · 16/06/2012 11:58

Hot*

tiktok · 16/06/2012 12:03

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StealthPolarBear · 16/06/2012 12:28

No, I prefer to keep my breasts private. In the same way as I prefer to keep my underwear private. But sometimes its on the line and people see it and that's ok. On the other hand if they were ogling it I'd be uncomfortable. And if I was trying to engineer it so they saw then they'd be entitled to feel uncomfortable.

yellowraincoat · 16/06/2012 12:54

Actually I do think you should be able to go topless whenever. I don't because it's not socially acceptable but breastfeeding is a totally different issue.

I can't believe someone would "ogle" a woman who was breastfeeding. I mean, if it offends you, surely just don't look. Don't look more . That makes absolutely no sense.

Whatmeworry · 16/06/2012 13:00

Whatmeworry, it is people like you that put women off breastfeeding in public

On the contrary, i suspect trying to fill their heads with fluffy woo would do far more damage, as reality would then come as a big shock and discredit the woo-message and messengers - which is IMO what hapens with the whole BF thing when it becomes clear it isn't a cakewalk.

Fortunately, I suspect that very few of the women who have got themselves into situations where they habve become pregnant/had babies are in any doubt about whether men and society see breasts as sex organs or not.

yellowraincoat · 16/06/2012 13:02

FGS a breast is not a sex organ. Do yours release eggs or semen or something?

Saying it's ok to bf in public is hardly "fluffy woo".

McKayz · 16/06/2012 13:05

I know women who have decided not to BF because they are worried about BF in public or given up because of the trouble and abuse they have had while trying to BF.

All mentioning the same sort of crap you spout.

yellowraincoat · 16/06/2012 13:07

I just wish one woman on here could actually say why it's so hard for them to just not look.

I'm not fond of people kissing in public. But I don't stare at people to try to put them off and I know that it's my problem not theirs. So I just look away.

mangomadness · 16/06/2012 13:34

I don't ogle bfing mothers, my own mum taught me from a young age that it's something beautiful. But she used to get her whammers out to feed my little sister, so I guess I grew up with it and see no shame in it.
I'm bring now, if you don't want to see it then don't look, I'm doing nothing to be ashamed of, quite the opposite infact.
I heartedly dislike couples who unnecessarily slobber and paw each other when I'm in a restaurant and trying to eat. Guess what? I don't ogle, stare or pass comment, I ignore it. Society doesn't frown upon them dry sexing and creating slobber lakes in public places so why on earth does it frown upon a mother providing vital nourishment for her child?

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