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DC toys - relaunching superhero as "openly gay"

171 replies

Gloriousgeorge · 23/05/2012 10:48

Really?

FFS - that is taking things way too far IMO.

(and, no, before anyone suggests it - I don't have an issue with anyone's personal preference).

I do have issues with this tho.

Double standard ? Quite possibly.

........ hands discussion to the floor for debate ......

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waltermittymissus · 23/05/2012 13:50

Arf @ Clytaemnestra it is starting to look that way! Although I must stress that there was no visual storyline as it where. Just an implication!

TheUnMember · 23/05/2012 13:53

PandaWatch I thought all superheros were male. Tell you nephew that ... then run away. :o

CaseyShraeger · 23/05/2012 13:55

In the 70s Wonder Woman TV series Paradise Island did have only women, but they didn't explicitly have relationships with each other. There was a lot of scantily-clad braless bouncing and bondage-lite but every one of the Amazons who made their way to the US became very impressed by at least one specimen of Real American Manhood.

AmazingBouncingFalcarius · 23/05/2012 13:55

Barbie knew about Ken's underlying homosexual tendancies, she sought comfort in my Jordon Knight doll's arms. (plus he had a leather jacket and black trousers with silver sequins down the side so he was like, totes better looking than Ken)

waltermittymissus · 23/05/2012 13:56

Thank you Casey :)

PandaWatch · 23/05/2012 13:59

I had a Stephen Gately from Boyzone doll - would that have been the first openly gay action figure?

misslinnet · 23/05/2012 14:03

I hope it's not Superman, I would feel so sad for Lois Lane.

But as others have said, there are already gay superheros in the comic books. And the comic books are mostly aimed at people who are teenagers or older.

I very much doubt that this will affect the action figures in toys'r'us at all.
For instance, Iron Man is an alcoholic, and I've never seen an Iron Man doll with a bottle of booze.

AmazingBouncingFalcarius · 23/05/2012 14:04

Funnily enough I've just googled Jordan Knight to find a picture of the doll and the second option on the drop down menu was 'Jordan Knight Gay'

Grin
AmazingBouncingFalcarius · 23/05/2012 14:04

Oh I hope it's not Iron Man my fantasies would then have to involve me converting him...

youarehere · 23/05/2012 14:06

Trying not to sound like a geek, professor x, Spiderman and the xmen are marvel. The press release stated established character, it did not specify superhero or villan. Reports are saying jimmy Olsen seems the most likely as its a character who has not been used since dcs re launch last year.

misslinnet · 23/05/2012 14:09

AmazingBouncingFalcarius, Iron Man is a Marvel character, so it definitely won't be him.
I just said Iron Man because I couldn't think of an alcoholic DC superhero Grin

PandaWatch · 23/05/2012 14:11

Maybe it's Batman's Alfred!

CaseyShraeger · 23/05/2012 14:12

We've covered Marvel/DC, youarehere... Professor X was brought up in relation to "Whatever next -- a disabled superhero?" and the mutant/gay analogy is pretty relevant to a "gay superheroes shouldn't be allowed because they will confuse my children even though, obviously, some of my best friends are gay" discussion.

Emphaticmaybe actually knows who it is and has warned us we probably won't have heard of him, which probably rules out Olsen.

ginnybag · 23/05/2012 14:13

To a certain extent, if they're doing this for the comics, they're somewhat behind the times... There's a large core of their fanbase that's been writing their own 'we don't care which gender they are but they're cute/hot/have chemistry together' stories for various ranges of pairings for YEARS. (Tony Stark/Bruce Banner anyone....? Grin )

This is just corporate America trying to make a show of catching up. As usual. It may help some people to have printed role models who are like them, but, if it's meant to be a form of self-acceptance-therapy I wonder if it'd help more if they googled and found there are thousands and thousands of real people who write it for themselves - and therefore have no issue with it.

youarehere · 23/05/2012 14:17

Thanks Casey? I was referring to the fact names were being thrown about that it would not be.

Graciescotland · 23/05/2012 14:21

I quite like this idea, it'll make things easier to explain. Mummy what's gay. It's a man who like men like batman.

CaseyShraeger · 23/05/2012 14:28

Yes, and I was referring to the fact that while those names were mentioned on this thread they weren't being thrown around in a "who is the gay DC character?" context. For example, manicbmc's "Doctor Xavier anyone?" was in response to sparkleshine's characterisation of the use of disabled characters as a recent politically correct fad (as was SeaHouses' allusion to Daredevil), not because she was suggesting that Professor X was the Mystery Gay Character.

I mean, PC Plum's name has been thrown around on this thread and I'm pretty sure it's not him. Or Bob The Builder... Grin

youarehere · 23/05/2012 14:37

Casey that you for attempting to police my threads
feel free not to I am pretty sure I can post any comment I wish, as I don't think it breeches mns rules.

PandaWatch · 23/05/2012 14:43

COMIC BOOK GEEK FIGHT! Grin

PandaWatch · 23/05/2012 14:44

Sorry - "graphic novel" Grin

AmazingBouncingFalcarius · 23/05/2012 14:47

Is this a bit like when Star Wars and Star Trek fans collide?

CaseyShraeger · 23/05/2012 14:52

Sorry, I thought you were genuinely interested in the wide-ranging ongoing discussion and had accidentally got the wrong end of part of it in the middle of the thread. It is now clear to me that I was entirely mistaken.

DerbysKangaskhan · 23/05/2012 15:39

Not really a big deal, although DV is usually farther behind the times than most, but there are already several gay superheroes though they are mostly Marvel and part of 'young' groups (Young Avengers, Younger members of the X-men). There are a few who are only gay in alternative universes though. It wouldn't be comics if it wasn't confusing. There are also many superheroes with disabilities and/or are ethnic minorities, Echo being a good example. Stories, and toys, tend to reflect real life so as it becomes more acceptable and more come to the public stage, the more it is reflected in children's play and stories and their adult counterparts.

DerbysKangaskhan · 23/05/2012 15:39

*DC

Whatmeworry · 23/05/2012 18:20

I think its DC Comics new subsidiary PC Comics first product.

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