to understand why newbies feel unwelcome when there's a certain group of people on here that think mumsnet is all about them?

[truthful]

I really do understand why there is a 'flouncers corner' on this site and I understand why people feel the need to go to it!
Six months ago I joined this site and on my first ever thread there was about 10 people who all clearly knew eachother and started their own conversation and completely ignored me! I felt really unwelcome but just thought it was a one off. Ever since then I've begun to realise that its like school on here and theres the 'popular' group who seem to think that everyone should know who they are and so they just hijack everyone elses thread and talk amongst themselves ignoring other people in the process! I was even in a thread yesterday and there was a discussion and one of the popular ones said something along the lines of ' oh its jack, havent seen you for a while, hows your dad?'
To me that was rude and if you know eachother that well then shouldn't you be emailing or private messaging instead of being so rude? I can honestly say I have said something regarding to what the OP was asking and been completely ignored by what send like the usual lot talking about scones or something
Another thing which I hate is all the private jokes flying around which is between the usual lot and no one else. Fanjo??? Grow up!
The only time people seem to get noticed is when they have changed their name to something like one of the popular peoples names! Remember the whole 'whos impersonating sue's thing yesterday??? seems like thats all people cared about as yiu are sooo popular so

I have noticed what you are talking about but I can't say it bothers me. It's a big public forum, read the bits you want to read and ignore the in crowd sharing the private little conversations.

Personally I use this site to read stuff that I find interesting or entertaining, thats it. I have friends in real life to talk to about personal things and share in jokes with, and if other people have to get that sort of friendship from the Internet, then that's up to them. Just stay out of it and take the bits from MN that you do like.

paggy's back!

Stranded! my tiny brain will not cope with seporating you with stealh now!

Sorry stranded, it was just a joke. I don't know anyone here really. Or their brothers.

in rl, truthful, do you not find that you might start a conversation with someone about whether your child is going on the school trip, move on to, weekend plans, perhaps the weather, then maybe share a joke about something?

Threads are like convos - they have tangents and jokes and serious bits, it's what makes it interesting and alive.

How do you like your scones op?

Emmm, if you don't like this site, go somewhere else?

The internet is a very big place.

I don't think I've made this much effort in a long time.

Hope you appreciate it, truthful.

YABU...I'm sorry but you are! I've only just started posting in the past week and I love it here. Yes there are people who know eachother, but I think that's nice, out of thousands of people on this site they can identify and have a right aul laugh someone pleeeaaseee be my friend plleeeaaaasssseeee

The 'cliques' definitely aren't as bad as other forums I've used and I've had nothing but good advice and a laugh here since I started posting.

Just ignore the ones you think are 'mean girls' and have a laugh with the rest.

It's the Internet innit?

I like seeing the 'well known' posters around as most have given me good advice, or a right old laugh, on previous occasions.

I don't really know anyone well enough to wave at yet despite being here almost constantly for 3 years but I'm not going to take my bat and ball home about it.

No don't all be narsty to the op. It doesn't help.

Op, I get that you feel left out sometimes and that you are being ignored, but do you get what I am saying above? ^

That is my point thought. I have been in a thread and put my input. The next 5 posts ate all like this

I have then been ignored whilst the regulars be stupid

But what did you expect truthful?

You started a thread slating some of MN posters, hardly encouraging friendly communication is it

MN is like life people who have been "going" to the same place for a long time, will recognise each other and be friendly/ have in jokes.

Stick around and you'll feel part of the community more?

I am slightly offended by your mocking of fanjo though

I am everyone's friend.

Truthful - your point is not proven (actually it seems mine is). Lots of people have explained to you, but rather than see what they are saying you stick to your stance. You do not want to see the other side.

Was your first post in the same vein? Maybe thats why you were ignored?

Looking back at your OP, you seem to be displaying 'control freakery' tendencies - no personal attack - just noticed how you would wish to regulate posters interactions, their diction, their on-line 'friendships', and anything else you don't approve of as well as requesting an "acceptable level" of attention when you wish to say something - I'd have a bit of a look at yourself first before complaining about other people.

(no card-carrying member of any quiche - that I'm aware of.)

truthful you are now sounding peevish.

I have made great efforts. Basically, join in and pay your doos, put in the hours till you do get to know everyone, or don't waste yur time.

And stop moaning. It's very unattractive. No one will want to put their bits up yours.

It's an internet forum is MN. Not a dinner party. You can leave before the pudding course and bumsex without causing the slightest offence.

So yes, YABU. Although I suspect you know that already.

Most cliques are in the mind of the paranoid observer. But if a topic doesn't engage you, move along and find one that does. Or possibly conclude that you'd be happier elsewhere. It's not compulsory to like everywhere on the internet and the very anonymity of it means you can take or leave the bits that don't engage you. To condemn the whole site because you don't feel you've properly appreciated is, to put it mildly, very silly and ever so entitled.

So be stupid too, join in and you'll get noticed.

But gully I have never been in a conversation between en me and someone else and were are talking about our plans for the weekend. No one junps in and starts talking about scones? It doesnt happen in Rl