To wonder about all the press on Social Services taking children away?

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From good families and parents for no good reason. It is media hype or is there truth in it?

Talking with friends recently, some say they are careful about what they say to the GP for fear of what goes down on record. For example, they would think twice before saying something along the lines of, "I'm finding it hard to cope with my young children while sick with flu (or whatever illness)".

Amy social workers out there who could comment? Is it true that 95% of children are never returned to their parents once removed?

Scary. I can't believe this could happen.

You say all the police reports,

Well there in lies the problem, DV is a child protection issue its not just a cp issue because of the person committing the violence it's also a cp issue due to the person on the receiving end.

I'm wording this directly because you do not appear to understand the nicer ways of phrasing things your daughter created a secondary child protecting problem by allowing there to be more than one incident,and if she's anything like you come across chances are she didn't accept help or advice due to not wanting to be a sheep and do what she was told.

If you cannot understand the risk your children are at due to DV then you will have problems with ss

OK here's my positive social services story.

I got referred to social services having "missed" some antenatal appointments.
Social services investigated, found the appointment letters had been sent to the wrong address, spoke to me briefly and then closed the case.

However, NHS staff continue to view me as someone with a history of "not engaging" who has had contact with social services because this is what is written in my notes. Add to this low income and "deprived" area and the net result is a VERY high handed and interrogative attitude in every interaction with me.

At the 6 week check I was asked whether I was having difficulty clothing the baby. DS was wearing just a nappy and a (too big) baby-grow because he'd just come from the midwife's room where he was weighed (naked) and the midwife said not to bother dressing him as doctor may want to weigh him herself.

When we came into the health centre he was wearing vest, babygrow, cardigan and hat. The babygrow was large because he was between sizes IYSWIM. I am certain his notes now mention he was inadequately dressed.

Before wrapping up the case, the social worker asked if I had any problems I needed support with. I always think if I'd have said yes, the file would still have been open when the babygrow thing happened, the doctor would have reported it back and that would have been another reason to keep an eye on me.

So while personally I found social services OK, I can see how mistakes can happen. Once the stigma is there it colours peoples perceptions of your parenting, then those perceptions get fed back to social workers and so on...

I had the social worker give me a letter stating there are no child protection concerns. It is my prized possession and I feel VERY lucky to have it.

there was only one after the child was born and that was after she had left him and come to my house.

the other dv`s were before she found out she was pregnant

MY GRANDSON WAS ONLY PRESENT WHEN THE FATHER CAME TO MY HOUSE AFTER MY DAUGHTER LEFT HIM

i know more than most exactly what seeing dv can do to a child, i witnessed my mother beat my father black and blue and she put him in hospital on more than one occasion and yes it damanged me but it also made me more determind never to let my children ever see that type of thing.

its also took 2 years of counciling about my childhood to make me truely aware of the rue extend of the damage it did to me.

Anyone want to talk about Fran Lyon? I suppose Molly must be coming up to 5 years old now.

Now that was a horrific story with a lucky escape.

Well put, MrsDV.

tell that to someone who has not been involved and they would believe you but sorry i dont.

we were lucky with the judge we had ss had to prove everything they had said and put in their reports

which they could not do.

so thankfully we got my grandson back.

i really really wish that you people could see it with your own eyes at to what really happens to some families and see what the ss really do do in cases.

i know afew people who would gladly post there entire court case on here (every single thing that was put into court) but they are not allowed to by law.

this is why most people do not believe just exactly what goes on inside these secret closed family courts.

www.itv.com/thismorning/life/branded-an-unfit-mother/#.T4uohNREXzM.facebook

PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH THIS SOME WILL RECOGNISE THE LADY IN IT.

LUCY ALLEN

The woman in that video refused SS involvement, that is always going to trigger alarms.

can you please google the name of the woman in the video please.

she is a well known figure and was nearly a member of parliment

she was a tory mp

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121886/The-experts-break-families-The-terrifying-story-prospective-MP-branded-unfit-mother-experts-whod-met--nightmare-shared-families.html

she also worked on the fostering panel till the event in question happened.

please read above link

Good God I really hope that no children's lives are put at risk because of the utter rubbish being spouted on this thread.

I understand the anger, the upset, the sheer determination to feel you must avenge any wrong doing that you feel you have been a victim of.

However, your scaremongering is putting innocent children at risk and that mysecretworld makes you worse than any SWer you have mentioned on this thread. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Yet another Daily Fail link.

If you can link to a reasonable newspaper, I might believe more than a few words.

read my last link and then tell me i am lieing about what ss do when taking a mother/father to court

What about the stats I linked to, and my assertion the figures are not fiddled in any way?

Every year, 200 mothers or fathers are jailed for ?contempt of court? for breaking this silence ? while the same family courts request the removal of 225 children each week, 97 per cent of whom are never returned to their families.

And why are they not returned? Really?
You're just whipping out ths sensationalist headlines

In another extraordinary case, after a woman was found by a psychologist to be a ?competent mother?, the social workers are said to have insisted on commissioning a second expert?s report. It agreed with the first.
They then commissioned a third, which finally found that the mother had a ?borderline personality disorder?. All three of her children were taken away for adoption

in another case, an expert was paid handsomely to write a report based on the observations of a social worker who said a five-year-old girl was ?monosyllabic?.
?By failing to put in a regulatory framework, we would argue that the state is failing to protect families under Article 8 of the Human Rights Act, which says everyone has the right to a private and family life?
Paul Grant, legal adviser at Bernard Chill & Axtell Solicitors

Yet we are told a secret tape recording of the social worker?s interview showed the child chatting away about school, her family and her home. The little girl has since been removed from her mother.

We have also been told about a gregarious 47-year-old business adviser in the north of England who had to fight to keep her five-year-old daughter after being labelled a ?totally isolated schizoid? by a psychologist, who we understand is trained only to treat children, and should never have been involved in the analysis of adult behaviour.

Secretworld, I would suggest that you are too involved emotionally to see things rationally right now. Its very easy to feel that the whole world is against you when you are dealing with a trauma.

this is the type of thing that the ss should be fighting

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119161/Mother-left-16-month-old-baby-home-ALONE-partied-days-nights.html

It is about protecting the child. In many main cases it is always about working with a struggling parent/s to ensure the children can stay at home with their family. However sometimes where the child or children are at risk it is our job to remove the risk and unfortunately that may mean taking the child to a different home.
Of course anyone who has been through ss and has been deemed unable to give their child the proper care required will no doubtfully hate the ss and always will do.
However no child would be removed unless it was required for their own safety. Lack of proper care or in more sever cases abuse.