To find it hard to believe that there are a lot of women out there who aren't what you'd term "old" who have to wear Tenna Lady panty liners?

[Perriwinkle]

I've just seen an advert for Tenna Lady Panty Liners. The woman featured in the add is a very glam woman, who looks to be in her early 30s, who keeps saying "oops", which I assume is a little euphemism for involuntary incontenence.

Am I just being naive about the extent of this problem among women under the age of 80, or is it just because they don't want to feature an 80+ year old woman in their advert?

After DC3 coughing/ sneezing etc caused it (actually, having 'flu at 41 weeks pg was interesting too).

Last year I decided enough was enough, so I started using the kids' trampoline and I swear to god, in conjunction with weight loss, it's fixed! Don't even wee when I puke now

everlong and others, try Always Envive! Someone told me about them on MN and they are thin, just like their sanitary towels. Much better than Tena ones!

Everyone deserves a round of applause (but no laughter or cheering) for being open about this. We have broken a taboo - would love to see this as 'Discussion of the Day'.

I'm in the French system as well and yes, some kind of minor incontinence is so common after pregnancy that they prescribe a course of after-birth physio for everyone.

Whilst I'm sure it doesn't work for everyone, it does a lot of good for a lot of people...

Don't be embaressed about buying towels! I work with mostly woman and this is so common. Anyone who has stress incontinence, you can get a bladder repair to help it.

Or Vesicare from your GP will help.

Am 31, two 9lb+ babies, can't do the star jumps at the beginning of the 30 Day Shred without um leaking

had a c section and still ended up with a bit of leakage problems after childbirth. So you know it can just happen. But no GPs don't just tell you to go get Tena Lady lol. Maybe some do who knows but I'd been wearing the liners already, before I got to go over this with my GP - who wants to go around smelling of wee?

My mum used to wear bloody Kotex things daily after having twins - now they really WERE like bricks, even before they went in the pants! Poor woman. :(

i thought the same and then got pregnant

This thread is an education; I just assumed that if you have a CS you're ok

I always had a bladder of iron, could go a whole day without peeing before I got pregnant. But after a ventouse delivery and several stitches, I couldn't believe it when I continually wet myself, for weeks after DDs birth! I really focuses on my pelvic floors and I no longer wet myself, but I certainly can't go a day anymore, and when I feel I need to go well I need to go, pronto!

I have found all my bodily functions down there have changed since childbirth my vagine resembles the euro tunnel

I consider myself lucky to have come through 3 dc unscathed in this area. I don't think it's uncommon and must be very difficult

I believe there is a small op available and women should be encouraged to have this fixed if it's fixable.

Glad I'm not alone! Went to a do yesterday and didn't dance as much as usual as the enthusiastic exercise made me leak a little - luckily not much, or that would have been hideously embarrassing - I'm pregnant with second and things haven't been the same since first, extra bump pressure combo with weakened floor, is the deciding factor.

I was poorly recently and the 'trying to turn your tummy inside out with heaving' made me lose all control - I was crying and being sick as though I'd had the odd tiny slip from unexpected hard sneeze say, kneeling in a puddle is a whole other ball game. :(

I am sadly contemplating pads until I can sort this but I feel like I will have crossed a line and I am not thrilled with that! Makes me feel ashamed, and I am not consistently doing floor exercises so maybe only got myself to blame. :(

This is a good article about how urinary incontinence is very hard to avoid and inevitable for some, unless you do some serious Kegels every day.....
www.gynob.com/urology.htm

It's weird, I was convinced I'd have problems like this after giving birth and used to hate the Tena Lady ads and hope I'd never have to buy them.

I always had some minor bladder issues as a child / teenager (UTIs, leakage when laughing very hard or scared etc) and my mother had some stress incontinence later in life (one particular memory stands out when I was about 7 and asked her why she wouldn't run with all the other mothers in the school Sports Day and she said she couldn't because she'd leak )

So I was convinced I'd lose all bladder control after giving birth and signed up to Pilates classes, did pelvic floor stuff and yoga and actually - despite a prolonged labour and forceps delivery - I was fine! Never had a single leak. It's really strange actually. Maybe I won't be so lucky next time around but it just goes to show that it's not clear who does get incontinence issues and who doesn't. It all seems very random. Good to hear on this thread that there are solutions out there though. I wish they'd been available for women like my mother.

I ended up with a rectocystocele at the age of 21 after the birth of my first child. My PCT will not perform the necessary repairs until I am over the age of 30 and no amount of pelvic floor exercises will help. Physio has helped slightly but until I turn 30 (only another 18 months to go) Tena is the way forwards for me. I also need my perinium repairing after my episiotomy stitches burst during healing but again I can't get this done on the NHS yet but the logic with this one is 'you may want another child so wait and see'.

All tolled I will have had a decade of this hell by the time I get it all fixed :( and yes it gets me down.

OP YABVVVVVVVVVU to think this issue only affects elderly women.

YABVU OP.
I would vote for Amways Envive though.

I'm 22, no kids, and have been using them for a few years now. There was a thread on here a while back where a lot of under 25's were saying that they need them for various reasons so YABU.

Ditto Miseryplop - I may have to have surgery (basically like a C section to insert some tape in me to support my bladder wall) so bad is my stress incontinence - even after psychio; 2 big babies and years of ignoring the issue largely due to embarassment. Thanks goodness for Tena and similar. YABVU

women are told it is a fact of life but it is becoming more normalised.

I am now seeing a physio who initially just spent a lot of time teaching me to do pelvic floors properly. You have to clench the back passage, then the front, then lift the whole floor. often we are told to just clench the front (think of it as a figure of eight)

I think this is something that should be covered in PE at school as well as being told you don't have to live with problems, they can be fixed.

I understand that one of the side-effects of ecstasy is a shrunken bladder. I think there are something like 20% of the population of young women (20years +) whose bladders are about 1/4 of the normal size due to the use of this drug. They will require Tena Lady or similar for as long as they live.

Vomiting, plus cough, plus sneezing with hayfever = damp pregnancy. I was underweight as well. I also had very fast labour which apparently can make things worse.
Physio has worked wonders but you have to keep it up. I only have a problem now when I get a cold, asthma means I always cough for about six weeks. Am currently on week 5 of coughing and leaking.