To be really narked with this FB status re vaccinations?

[catgirl1976]

A FB friends has put this as thier FB status

"How can my unvaccinated child be a risk to your vaccinated child is vaccines work?"

He has a history of putting stuff about vaccines, linking them to autism etcf.

DS is 5 months and was sent home form nursery on Tuesday with a rash and they have case of measles. DS has suspected measles so I am a little sensitive.

I have already responded to this status (and I know I should have ignored) saying "You're right vaccines don't work. Small pox got bored and went away. Correlation is causation and Daily Mail scare stories are much better than actual science."

Then someone else commented that an unvaccinated child is not a greater risk than a vaccinated child.

That narked me so I commented that they clearly don't understand how "risk" works.

There are now a few more comments on the "thread" in support of not vaccinating.

Am I irrationally annoyed by this today. Arrgh

In general people will catch these illnesses, feel ill, recover and go one with their life. In some, albeit a small number of instances, people will catch one of mumps, measles etc feel ill, be left with lifelong consequences. That is why vaccinations programmes are run, to vaccinate the majority to protect a minority.

Grahamisn't that I bit like the family with generations of smokers saying 'well we've never got lung cancer therefore everyone should feel free to smoke'. Your personal experiences don't reduce the overall risks of infectious diseases.

Come on sperical we don't need to be rude.

Bummer. I really didn't want to cause an arguey thread :(

Emphatic, that's entirely the point I'm making - that putting up a video which (I presumed and appear to be wrong about, but who gives a shit now ) of children harmed as a result of lack of vaccination is just as pointless as me putting up videos of my healthy family. We can all do the "Oooh, look at this example!" thing, it proves nothing. The fact remains that regardless of the scare tactics used to get those of us non vaccinators to conform to others' demands those harmed individuals are in a minority.

The bottom line for me is that I don't give a hoot what others do with their DC and their own bodies, as long as they don't get to dictate what I do with mine.

You haven't catgirl, take no notice. :)

Have you blocked laughing-boy yet and if so did you tell him BOLLOCKS! first?

I have blocked him - I feel much better

I didn't say BOLLOCKS but I did say. "You are adamant vaccination doesn't work. Just to be clear, what did happen to small pox and polio in this country?" Which felt just as good

I feel calmer now he isnt popping up on my wall ranting on

Thanks everyone :)

catgirl. What will really make him pissed is trying to answer you and finding that he can't

I hadn't thought of that. That feels goooooooooood :)

PMSL!

I found the vaccination choice a very difficult one to make, in the end we have vaccinated.

Graham, what will the decision be if you take your dc abroad? Do all of the moral and animal products problems exist in a vaccination like yellow fever or hep etc? Or would you just wait until they are older? I often wonder what people do in that situation when they have made the decision not to vaccinate here.

Trying to save lives is pointless because very rarely it doesn't work!!! Just because you tried to stop your child getting a horrible disease and I didn't doesn't mean it will actually work!!! /hilarious"logic"onthisthread

I don't get it. I feel really differently to Graham and bumble on this issue but I still would like to keep it like we're chatting and disagreeing in real life, I don't want to be aggressive and I don't like it when people are with me.
I actually respected your response Graham when you said that you were relying on others to vaccinate, at least you were honest and you have obviously thought your decision through. I still hold that the right of parental responsibility is paramount, even if I think you are wrong in this case.

Sometimes seatbelts don't work so they're obviously pointless, why bother trying to prevent injury unless it's 100% effective?

Youbrokemysmoulder

My dc travel abroad several times a year. I would imagine that the risk of exposure in a decent hotel in Spain or Barbados is not much greater than the south east. As they get older I consult them about the choices. Ds1 is 18 now and will do as he sees fit

I've yet to take my DC abroad to a country where vaccination is compulsory, YouBrokeMyShoulder, (jeez, that sounds painful!), and I don't anticipate doing so, so it's never been an issue.

Empathic, I agree with you, I'm really interested to hear someone else's views, its interesting and sometimes I reassess what I think or at least think about its basis. I think I the internet and anonymity can hinder this.

Not to compare this to anything that anyone has said on this thread, but the comments on one website about the use of Madeline McCanns picture on a holiday website were horrible.

Yes fair enough, I was thinking about India soon you see and realised I was having no qualms about having the dc vaccinated for that and yet I did so much research for the ones here. Different risks I suppose.

And it's Smoulder, you know, from Tangled.

I thought you might be thinking of India. Rest assured, India is joint top with Australia on the list of countries I have no desire to ever see or take my DC to, YouBrokeMySmoulder!

And sorry about the mis-reading of your name.

Graham YABU, Austrailia is top of my list with New Zealand of places to see.

NZ, yes, that's next year's plan, particularly as a friend has emigrated there over the past 12 months and does an exciting, touristy- entertaining job. But Aus? Nope, you can keep it.

Lockets - very funny - waving at the person concerned...

Aribura - agree - it just shows what a silly and ill-informed comment it was.