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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think people shouldlet a severely disabled little girl get off her school bus and walk across a tight lane to home with her escort without being verbally abused by members of the public?

86 replies

FioFio · 09/05/2012 16:30

some of whom are our neighbours Angry

someone has just tried to force her off the lane and back onto the bus ffs.

If I knew who it was I would be reporting them (for what who knows) The escort had to jump in front of her to guard her as the car wasn't going to stop :( it did obviously...maybe they saw the high viz Hmm

as a disclaimer I will say the lane is clear when they start to cross but she is physically disabled, she cannot do quick

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saintlyjimjams · 09/05/2012 19:29

Outraged - I think you would be stunned at the behaviour of some people when confronted with a special school bus tbh. I have seen people drive on the pavement to get round ds1's on more than one occasion which might not be deliberately endagering someone but is a) particularly stupid and b) aggressive imo.

KitchenandJumble · 09/05/2012 19:42

How dreadful. Your poor DD.

As others have said on this thread, in the U.S. it is illegal to pass a stopped school bus. Even if you are driving in the other direction, you must stop your car. It's a good regulation, IMO.

maddening · 09/05/2012 20:37

could the bus park so it is impossible to pass the bus.

yanbu

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 09/05/2012 21:08

Yes, I probably would be stunned, sadly.

I shouldn't be though, I've seen some awful behaviour out there too. I often go on holiday with a gruo of disabled adults, and the amount of people that complain that we get to board the plane first is ridiculous. It's as if they would rather their flight was late than have someone get on the plane before them. I find it completely uncomprehendable, and if you are at the stage where you are used to this kind of behaviour because you see it more regularly than I do, then that's even more outrageous. Angry

inabeautifulplace · 09/05/2012 21:31

I totally agree with discussing the situation with the bus driver and asking if she could cross the road in front of the bus while there's no chance of overtaking traffic. Her escort would have to check for motorbikes etc in this scenario.

Correct course of action for a driver when a pedestrian is crossing the road is to slow down, relax and wait for them to pass. There are no exceptions to this rule!

FioFio · 09/05/2012 21:35

she can't really cross the road in front of the bus, it's a disabled access bus, she has to get off the side of it with the escort to guide her

god forbid if she was in a wheelchair. I think the lane would combust!

doormat, I only came back for you Blush got angry and then ended up posting this thread!:o

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inabeautifulplace · 09/05/2012 21:49

OK, can't really visualise that. Does she get off from the drivers side of the bus? I guess either way, it might be worth asking the driver if he can stop the vehicle in such a way as to aid your daughter. I totally understand your fury; society is supposed to be about helping each other and recognising each others needs. The need to drive like a selfish twat is a long way down the list of needs, but for a small percentage it's right at the top : (

doormat · 10/05/2012 06:46

well im here to stay fio...good to see jimjams is still here too...

.have ruffled a few feathers hehe Grin

sashh · 10/05/2012 08:02

You know it is one of two cars - call the police and let them visit both houses.

FioFio · 10/05/2012 08:56

I am not a drip feeder, but the bus is pulling to the side of the road because the other neighbours complained about it parking in the middle Confused

We really don't need all this shit over a sodding school bus. Our lives are difficult enough as it is tbh. Oh well, nowt stranger than folk and all that. I am going to speak to offending vehicles landlord and explain the situation and hopefully he will have words. I have calmed down now Blush

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Thumbwitch · 10/05/2012 08:59

Oh My God. Your neighbours complained about a school bus that stops for what, 5-10 minutes twice a day to let your DD on and off the bus and across the road safely? Seriously? You live near a bunch of utter fuckwits. :( and Angry again.

WilsonFrickett · 10/05/2012 09:06

In that case, you definitely should have the bus park in the middle. And when they complain again (because they will) you should calmly or not explain that you now have to have the bus park in the middle due to some selfish driver endangering your DD by trying to overtake.

saintlyjimjams · 10/05/2012 09:12

I think the bus should just park in the middle fio. Safety is more important than complaints. I'd ring transport and explain your concerns perhaps - both for your dd and for their staff - if an escort gets run over then they'll be in the shit (which sounds odd I know, but I always think making someone clearly responsible for damage is the way to ensure action gets taken - make it THEIR problem). They are allowed to - every time someone beeped at us the previous bloshy escorts used to tell me that they were allowed to park in the road. In fact I think our annual info says that (but they're not meant to beep)

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 10/05/2012 09:15

The bus could be transporting fully able-bodied teenagers for all I care; any motorist behaving like that is a fucking arse.

Pagwatch · 10/05/2012 09:17

God people are wankers. The people that have to wait while my son is helped on and off his bus can be a nightmare but he descends onto the pavement.

They have to suck it up or screech past on the other side of the road. I tend to smile and wave tbh.

lardylump · 10/05/2012 09:17

the answer is simple to me... the coach your DD gets off should block the road until she is off and safely accross. even in a single track lane it is legal to stop and unload

FioFio · 10/05/2012 09:19

I will speak to the bus driver again tomorrow and then ring transport if she wants me to. Dh put her on the bus this morning so I haven't communicated with them since last night and they wont be picking up until tomorrow because she has a group after school tonight.

Yes, the neighbours complained, well they went further than complaining, he lost control of his vehicle because he was having temper tantrum one evening. If I didn't have enough to worry about myself I think I would be quite exasperated by it!

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lardylump · 10/05/2012 09:19

i suppose its the same neighbours balring past that complained about the bus blocking the road. If i were you i'd go out and greet your dd at the end of the path and make it clear to the aggressive drivers that you can see them, if it persists call the local community bobby in

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 10/05/2012 09:23

yy, contact your PCSO.

Maybe have a traffic cop hide in a bush with a stinger Grin

starfishmummy · 10/05/2012 09:24

I think the bus should just park in the middle too.

Thumbwitch · 10/05/2012 09:25

Stinger, yes! I was thinking that. Throw one down alongside the bus, leaving space for your DD to cross of course... Grin

Birdsgottafly · 10/05/2012 09:56

The only place that PHV's cannot stop is on pedestrian crossings and zigzag lines.

The driver is also allowed time to leave the bus to assist in any manner, if needed.

The driver's focus should be on passenger safety, so at present it is the driver who is putting your DD at risk. He if he is a qualified driver, he will know the rules and he is breaking them if he isn't stopping in the safest place.

This is a matter for your council and the police, in regards to sorting out the neighbours.

Birdsgottafly · 10/05/2012 09:58

the neighbours complained

Who to? If it was the driver, he should have quoted the law. Then he feeds this back, so the neighbours can be dealt with.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 10/05/2012 10:03

fuck your neighbours... he should be bang slap in the middle every day, twice a day. how was dd? did she get a fright or did the escort shield her?

FioFio · 10/05/2012 10:04

They complained to me, my landlord, the driver and escort and transport services. I think the driver is just trying to be accommodating because I have to live by these people but I do agree with you all that she should just block the road

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