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Jeremy Kyle - educational or exploitative?

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FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 19:44

Aibu to think that JK could be educational on any level? I.e. preventing people from making the same mistakes or do you think it's purely exploiting vulnerable people?

I used to hate it, but now I wonder if there is any benefit to it for some people. It doesn't discuss issues like domestic violence, child neglect, addiction and responsibility, but does it do it in a way that has any positive impact? Just wondered what the genera consensus was, as most people in real life slate it but someone must be watching it...

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Kayano · 03/05/2012 21:52

He is also guilty of saying

'END OF'

Kayano · 03/05/2012 21:53

I am going to get my mum to babysit
My child
On Friday and get pissed to jeremy Kyle Grin

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FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 21:58

I'm in no way saying that's all that here. Some areas like special needs children are brilliant. However some display similarities. I'm not actively looking for it but it is there. If you can't acknowledge that, maybe you're ignoring those bits.

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Jellicoe · 03/05/2012 22:03

JK is filled with mad nut cases from all over the UK! Def ENTERTAINMENT!!

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FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 22:14

beertricks, I I know it might not seem like it but I do have a life and don't have time for links to pm, sorry. I'm a regular on children:special needs so no need to correct me, thank you anyway :).

I feel like you're very defensive of mn and don't get me wrong, it's been a great source of information and support for me. However, I still see the other side, not saying its bad or wrong, it's just life and it would be nice if people where more tolerant and understand of other people and their choices.

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slowestwildebeast · 03/05/2012 22:16

JK Drinking Game

FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 22:16

Please excuse the typos, my phone is never on my side :)

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BeerTricksPott3r · 03/05/2012 22:18

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FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 22:19

slowest, that's sure to get you drunk, might pre record so I don't end up pissed at 10 am :)

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FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 22:20

Well, I think we can agree to disagree. Have a good evening :).

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iphoned · 03/05/2012 22:21

Mn substitute

FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 22:22

Not really, just that JK is less time intensive! :)

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BeerTricksPott3r · 03/05/2012 22:25

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redwineformethanks · 03/05/2012 22:25

Horrible programme, bear baiting

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 03/05/2012 22:29

I don't see how it exploits vulnerable people. They have all chosen to be there, probably because they like their five minutes of fame and the free night in a hotel.

It is patronising to call adults with free will vulnerable. They are not.

fedupofnamechanging · 03/05/2012 22:33

The best thing JK could do for his guests is tell them that if you have to get your partner to do a lie detector/DNA test, then your relationship is over and no amount of shouting at each other on the telly will fix it. But that wouldn't be 'entertainment'.

Absolutely loathe the premise of JK's show, which is to laugh at and judge people who are too stupid to know they are being laughed at and judged.

pinkpyjamas · 03/05/2012 22:35

It's a laugh riot if you like DJs who think they're psychologists.
Or if you feel you need to take your moral lead from gambling addicts who loathe alcoholics, drug addicts and a large proportion of young mothers.

It also makes a fascinating case study for any wannabe dentists - there are some interesting toothy phenomena on there, for sure.

DioneTheDiabolist · 03/05/2012 22:36

I do not agree that JK exploits the vulnerable.

I know one family who appeared on a similar (supposedly more gentle) show that provided no aftercare. I consider this to be exploitative. However this family did not. Everyone in the local area already knew what was going on as it was played out week in and week out, outside schools, in local bars and on the streets outside their houses.

FruitPastillesForever · 03/05/2012 22:41

beertricks I am the last person who would laugh at people with problems...thanks for judging... Maybe you're not so different to the perceived audience of JK... I think maybe a little more tolerance and understanding wouldn't go amiss rather than judging everyone on your own perceptions and experiences. I don't need to justify myself any further, but I do think those who have decided a programme like JK bears no value need to look a bit deeper at how we as society support those who are not finig life straight forward for whatever reason. Call it bear baiting all you will but the real issue is why do these people feel that humiliating themselves in public is the only way to move forward with their lives. Looking down and pitying people never helped anyone, reflecting and thinking how to improve those situation and taking action does. You're not a saint because you can't bear to watch it and witness their failures. That's denial.

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AllYoursBabooshka · 03/05/2012 22:44

Kayano, I shall join you. We could watch JK USA too!

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Heavensmells · 04/05/2012 00:03

I was in the jk audience a few weeks ago Blush. He's vile. He mocks guests behind their backs and they get through so many stories in such a short period of time that I can't see how any quality aftercare is provided due to there being lots of them.
There was a woman on who was having a dispute with her sister. Kyle said (and it was not at all relevant to what they were saying) "yeah but your kids are in care aren't they!"
She was devastated. She said that the researchers had promised not to mention it before filming. I wonder if it will be cut out?

FruitPastillesForever · 04/05/2012 07:49

That's awful. It does beggar belief how he got that job. So I guess it is largely exploitative and marginally educational.

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