Jeremy Kyle - educational or exploitative?

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Aibu to think that JK could be educational on any level? I.e. preventing people from making the same mistakes or do you think it's purely exploiting vulnerable people?

I used to hate it, but now I wonder if there is any benefit to it for some people. It doesn't discuss issues like domestic violence, child neglect, addiction and responsibility, but does it do it in a way that has any positive impact? Just wondered what the genera consensus was, as most people in real life slate it but someone must be watching it...

Agree he does sensationalise it. If it was a caring supportive woman, would people think it was more educational? I guess Vanessa and Trisha didn't work out, so perhaps people like his approach. It's the same stories. I wonder of its the man himself who turns people off or if it's the premise of the programme.

If mn was full of more men than women, it might show more similarities to JK?

lady. Yes he does, he obviously doesn't have much experience of mn but he isn't one for airing problems or the ugly side of life. There is an ugly side of life though, maybe generally people don't like seeing it unless they have experienced it themselves and found support?

I saw a bit and had to start a thread

If there is an education it's lost under the goading, aggressive, come and poke the freaks til they bite approach that JK adopts.

There's no empathy as far as I can see. I felt rather ashamed after I watched it, like I was aiding and abetting a bully.

It can be hideous sometimes but that's how some people have to live...

There are some lovely people on MN, who can offer loads of helpfull support and advice, what threads has your oh been looking at?

I am sure there are some poor souls out there that feel like a speck of dust inside themselves on MN, who feel the need to put others down to feel better about themselves, and some people having a bad day who take it out on faceless people on the internet, the same as in real life.

Shortly before leaving my Ex I was watching a woman on JK and thinking "you silly cow, when are you going to wise up. How much are you going to take". Then I imagined what I would say about me if I was on JK.

I consider this one of the defining moments in making my decision to leave.

It seems it is more to do with the intolerant attitudes of JK than the premise of the programme.

Like your point dionne. The programme does affirm socially acceptable behaviour and it does set firm boundaries. I think this is helpful to those do stuck in a situation, they can't see the wood for the trees. There's no ifs and buts... It's very intolerant on Moral values, to the detriment of the guests but maybe to the benefit of any people watching who might need clarity on setting boundaries?

I love it! I don't think it's educational or exploitative, it's just class-war, taking interest in other peoples misery brain fodder, like 'that's life!' et al which I also love!
The people that go on it do so freely, knowing what'll happen and it's a chance for them to get DNA results/talk to scummy family members/hear some home truths and get counselling etc that wouldn't normally be available to them.

There was a young girl with anorexia on I think today's episode and he was shouting at her asking her if she realised what she was doing to her family e.t.c. He is not a mental health professional and I worry about the damage he's doing and the message he sends out about mental health. There are always people on stating they have depression and he just dismisses it and tells them it's no excuse for any of their behaviour.
The American version is dreadful, he sits screaming at them, calling one woman 'mother of the year' because she'd done so crap in his fantastic unblemished past opinion! Toss pot!

beertricks. How do we know it doesn't serve a purpose for some people. There was a girl with anorexia on today and I found it very moving. It seemed to be the wake up call she needed. Maybe someone watching had a similar issue and empathised with her and has been surfed on to get help, all without having to go through the embarassment and painful abrupt realisation herself... Much like dionne

slowest we obviously took different perspectives on the episode. I thought it really drummed home to her family just how much support she needs.

they said they needed to admit her into hospital, Jeremy Vile was saying "you're just sitting there, with no reaction" err yeah, because she's mentally ill you idiot!

That girl was sat with two doctors, who he had brought in to do all the tests, she is/was killing herself. Her family had brought her on because no-one else was listening to them.

I have seen much mocking of the state of people's teeth across MN and the stock reply to threads telling the poster 'to just get a job'.

voidka that's bad... I do feel for the guy but being uneducated is no excuse for having children you can't look after, left, right and centre...

Car crash telly!

Last one I watched the girl was adamant the baby was her ex or his mates, it was neither, why would anyone publicise to the world they had unprotected sex with so many men that they didn't know who the father was???

I think this thread is of the same vein as the Mcdonald one's.

Just because the people on JK aren't 'like you' doesn't mean that they cannot/should not be able to choose to be there, they have had limited chances but are adults with capacity.

It is their choice, as it it yours, whether you watch it.

The fact that people think that they should be able to decide that JK shouldn't be on the air and all those on it need protection, is ten times more arrogant that JK has ever been.

Definitely exploitation.

And the man is intolerably arrogant. I've seen him shout at someone who refused to answer a very impertinent and personal question. Who on earth does he think he is?

I often wonder if JK says thinks like your dirty little secret, because he was shouted at like that and humiliated like that over his gambling issues, and is now doing the same to others to make himself feel better.

So why do people do it, go on the show I mean... Are they not at their last resort?