Aibu? to be pissed off at this: "The cost and social implications of using an infant milk should be considered when deciding how to feed your baby."

[Selyna]

WTF do Hipp mean by social implications?

Both methods of feeding a baby are acceptable so fuck off with the whole acting like ff is poison! my dd is perfectly fine but i hate this constant making me feel like a failure because i failed to bf although i tried so so hard!

pickles, I suppose the sort of risk you mean is the specific one of contamination of the formula product itself which then poses risks? Rather than the more general risk of 'it is not breastmilk' ?

The specific contamination risks are reduced by careful preparation and hygiene.

Even I say I stopped before I would have wanted to.... But it was 100% the best decision FOR ME aND MY BABY as time
Progressed.

So although I would say that it doesn't mean that I would have continued anyway.

So it's a pretty pointless statistic

SPB, what happened to you is what happens to billboard reviews outside theatres:

Review: 'This play is the most stunning example of ridiculous acting and production I have ever seen!'

Theatre billboard: 'Stunning!'

Yes. Of course I knew that but when people started talking about risks I was curious if there was something I wasn't aware of. Any one I have talked too who has trained as a bf counsellor I have found really helpful. Should be more of that type of thing, less screaming no more moo moo milk IMO.

Kayano - not 'pointless' statistic.

It indicates that unless women have a good and happy experience breastfeeding they will stop doing it.

Governments, who support training of midwives and others, who oversee maternity services, and who want to increase breastfeeding because it saves taxpayers' money, need to know that.....wouldn't you agree?

The survey is not actually 'about' you, you know :)

hahahaha tiktok

Like, OMG, if you don't breast feed you are deliberately harming your baby, and it's going to be sick like all the time.

OMG you breast feed? How new age hippy. You realise you are embarrassing everyone by getting your nipples out. Breasts are sechsual.

Does that offend everyone? Good. Ffs always six zillion posts justifying, berating and excusing. Just BUTT out of everyone's feeding decisions/obligations.

pickles, even allowing for your 'poetic' license.....

"less screaming no more moo moo milk "....where does this happen?

Where is anyone calling for formula milk to be eradicated?

hahahaha bringmesun

i think that asking for a ban on advertising formula milk is pretty extreme. we dont even have a ban on alcohol. we do however have a ban on cigarettes adverts so its a bit of an odd suggestion.

My point by putting my example is that obviously I would inflate the figures of such a survey question despite no fucking way in hell wanting to continue bf because
Of my anxiety and mental health.

So if thy use that stat to say '90% of women would continue bf of they had more
Support of trained midwives' is wrong and using inflated numbers by asking leading questions in a society where bf is the 'ideal.'

That's what I meant by pointless

And of course I know it's not all about me buy what stops anyone using their own experiences to demonstrate their opinions. How fucking rude do you have to be, you know...

Might want to tone down the sarcasm

Would it save taxpayers money though? We assume all the problems linked to FF and their associated costs to the public purse would disappear, but we fail to factor in all the things I said earlier about a hypothetical situation where FF was banned or if you can imgine a scenario where it just never existed at all. I imagine there would still be costs to the taxpayer, they would just be different costs, forgotten about and unanticipated, because it's so long since we've had a society where the vast majority of babies were BF that we cannot imagine what those costs might be.

The most obvious cost would be that many women would be unable/unwilling to return to work to support themselves until they could wean baby fully off breat milk - and especially if they were single mums that would represent a HUGE cost to the taxpayer.

sorry i agree with kany here it is pointless not really relevant. only trotted out so the government can mouth off about it and most people as kany will not be honest about the reason they stopped in the first place so yes pointless.

It happened to me in the hospital. It's a specific incident I mentioned in a previous post. By a midwife.

Hilly, no one, but no one
(and I can't emphasise this enough before i get misquoted)
no one wants to ban formula.

(Certainly not no this thread. Sure there are some odd people out there, but no organisations do and I CERTAINLY DON'T)
(can you see that sausages)

I don't think I have been displaying much poetic license on here? I was trying in fact to pay you a compliment as I find your comments very reasoned.

Ok....settle down tiktok, Kayano (needs that rolling eyes emoticom again)

Down the woman not trying hard enough. Lack of support. Lack of help.

You see....with that Capital D on the Down it (oddly enough) looks like a new sentence to me and reads in exactly the context in which I interpreted the comment (even though the first part made little sense - especially as I had not a clue what nevr means).

I realise that the poster in question felt disappointed about an apparent lack of BFing support in hospital, but I absolutely refuse to believe that any midwife on a ward would scream at a new mother because she was choosing to FF.

Sorry, I think that last post makes mse realise I need to hide this for my own sanity. I have to admit, I'm unlikely to. I keep hoping sausages will come back and either admit she's wrong or tell me what the hell she's talking about.
Unlikely I know.

x post
will read your reply later. Right now I'm too angry.

stealth I thought you were leaving....

You never did though, did you? Just watched from the wings waiting for someone to sympathise with your high blood pressure comment. No doubt you will still be on this thread for the next 24 hours.

I on the other hand have no inclination to stay here and scrap with you on this thread....I'll leave that to you.

so what does "down the woman" actually mean? The "sentence" makes no sense. Did it not occur to you, in the context of many people posting from phones, grammar and punctuation rarely being 100% on anyone's posts, to look at the detail and actually THINK about what I might be saying.
I believe you read what you wanted to read to fit your image of me as some sort of breastfeeding zealot. And now you're backtracking. Fine, but let's be clear.

Er well she did. Through the ward doors from quite far. Why would I even being to bother making that up?

yes, I won't leave. Have already said that, no doubt you won't have seen it/
This stuff matters to me. Being told I'm saying things I'm not about a group I would like to see more support for angers me.
You obviously don't give a shit.

oh and where did I actually say I was leaving? Make that up too, did you?