To think Mary Beard is an attractive women who is certainly not too ugly for TV and Samantha Brick really needs to be aware that the rest of the world aren't as looks obsessed as she is!

[MrsHeffley]

Sorry Daily Mail and I really shouldn't have clicked on Samantha Brick's absolute shite of an article but I did.

Mary had dp and I spellbound last night,that program was an absolute credit to her.I think she's a very attractive lady,I'm very jealous of her "wild" hair,liked her clothes and think she most certainly does not need a make over.

Reassure me that Samantha Brick is wrong and I'm not the only one who thinks her obsession with looks is frankly quite disturbing.

Ah bless him! Good on you, Stephen!

I like Mary Beard very much. She knows what she is talking about, she presents information well and with great enthusiasm. I have no need for her to dye her hair or wear make-up. Why on earth should she? She is a real person, a researcher with knowledge and passion. She is exactly the type of person I want my dd to see if she switches the TV on.

Samantha Brick is just milking her 5 minutes of fame. Who'd even heard of her a fortnight ago?

does samantha brick not realise we hate her cause she is a not very nice person?

I am a bit cynical about it and think it is about staying in the public eye basically, closely related to having a first book out

if Mary Beard disappeared from our tv screens, it would be a loss. If Samantha Brick disappeared from the media, who would even notice?

Brick is most definitely a DM puppet - being worked deftly from behind the scenes to press precisely the right buttons to cause the outburst of reaction that she has 'enjoyed.'

There is nothing to suggest she isn't participating willingly in all of this - she's probably lining her pockets with her fifteen minutes of notoriety - but the DM have probably prodded, wheedled and encouraged her along each step of the way; they knew only too well the reaction this whole sorry affair would incite.

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I was spellbound by Mary's programme last night - I find her utterly engaging and I'm total awe of her knowledge and enthusiasm.

I think MN should champion MB - the less said about the other person, the better.

yes, I see what you mean

It will be awful if Brick becomes someone with an opinion on things. Eugh

Didn't see the programme but sure MB is great.

I can see her as a panellist on The Wright Stuff or reviewing the papers on This Morning.

As I said before Samantha Brick is a bottom feeder. She has no intelligence or talent so she's sold her soul to be a professional troll for the DM. She's obviously desperate for money and has no other means of making it. God knows she can't write for shite, was she supposed to be a journalist? Urgh, whatever.

Mary Beard would wipe the floor with Samantha Thick in every way obviously. I hate to even dignify her pathetic trolling attempts. Sad to see someone reduced to making themselves a national laughing stock for a few quid.

I'm happy to see the likes of Mary Beard, Maggie Aderin-Pockock and Jennifer Clack on the TV. I would far rather hear their words of wisdom than vacuous ramblings from S Brick.

As a society (not MN'ers obviously) we are far too obsessed with placing value on what someone looks like. We should value what they live like - that is, what we can learn from them.

To quote something I recently read, "If only closed minds came with closed mouths" I think the world would be a happier place. Kind of mostly sums up the DM really!

I'd much rather watch a show with the excellent Mary Beard, than read the self-centred delusions of Samantha Brick.

I really am a massive Mary Beard fan. I love her enthusiasm for history and her programmes are so interesting.

Samantha Brick CANNOT be real. Seriously. What a knobber.

Mary B, as someone pointed out in, I think, the Guardian recently (admittedly it would be the Guardian, wouldn't it - I cannot be arsed to find the ref, though, am too knackered) looks normal. She looks like an intelligent late 50s woman. I happen to think she is rather sexy and that I'd like to look like her when I grow up .

I feel like I'm living in some bizarre parallel universe. My love of Mary Beard's programme aside I think she is a fine looking woman and quite frankly if I look like that at 57 I'd be more than happy. I am just dumbfounded that there is any debate going on about what she looks like- it is so bizarre and makes me despair.

As for the Brick woman she is just odd looking and is obviously deluded and/or pretending to be in order to take the Daily Mail's 30 pieces of silver to fufil its ever expanding quota for misogynistic articles written by women.

Something I have noticed recently:
As I get a bit older and wiser, my perceptions of beauty change. When I was younger, possibly because of barbie and britney spears, I thought that perfection= beautiful, and now I have gone completely in the other direction. The way someone looks really honestly means nothing at all. You notice someone's looks for five minutes- after that, they become beautiful or plain because of who they are.
I saw Mary Beard's programme last night, and my God, she is wonderful. Passion, intelligence, a glint of mischief in her eyes... Lovely to watch.

The DM is leading Brick by the nose like a donkey. I just hope she is making some cash from all this silliness.

In the meantime ordinary intelligent women can refuse to listen to a single word she says

I think she is attractive. She has that inner glow of someone who is alive inside and has a passion in life. She comes across as natural, genuine and pleasantly down to earth. She has character, you can tell by how she reacts to all this. She is altogether a person who is on a higher plane than her detractor. I get the impression from her she has a sense of humour too and all those things are what makes a person attractive. It is all very well dying your hair, applying make-up, dressing in a particular fashion, having surgery and so forth, I don't object to people doing any of that but you will not really be attractive unless there is something coming from within. It is more about what you exude than what you do to your exterior.

I agree. I think Mary B is fantastic. Samantha Brick obviously has a book out that needs promoting. If Elle MacPherson said I'm beautiful, I'd think yes you are. Mary Beard is beautiful when she talks about the Romans.

I used to quite like A A Gill. No more. He made a very bad call picking on the wonderful Mary Beard - a very bad call and he came out of it smelling like stale cat shit. Good. I abhor the Brick woman and everything she stands for but to the poster who called her a bottom feeder - that is exactly what she is and was born to be! In a way I hope she does elevate herself to Big Brother - for all it's faults it is very good at conveying to the pond life exactly how disliked they really are.

crossed posts with you dogeared. I agree with you entirely.

After having a quick read through the linked threads, I think I love MB more.

digs out pom poms for Team MB

Also, as I get older, I find wrinkles absolutely wonderful things. We have a society which hates ageing generally, and this is another part of it. I'm 29, I look about 5 years older. But d'you know what? Wrinkles are the traces of all the laughing and smiling you have done in your life! They're sexy and pretty and they should be celebrated!