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to complain about Londoners?

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NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/04/2012 00:45

I have just gone from brixton to Liverpool street in tears and with a very heavy limp. I am in agony right now and not one person has stopped to ask if im ok.

Considering the time (midnight) if you saw a woman limping through the tube network in tears would you stop her and ask if she's ok? Or aibu to think someone might have helped me?

disclaimer: i met people at both ends of the journey so am home fine just pissed off at how people will just walk past someone in such obvious difficulty. Aibu to be disgusted by it?

OP posts:
SucksToBeMe · 14/04/2012 08:23

I saw a lady walking along limping,i work in healthcare anyway so i asked if she was ok and needed any help.

She replied 'Oh i always walk like this,i'm disabled'

Blush Blush Blush

lolaflores · 14/04/2012 08:34

Madam
I have been in your situation, badly twisted ankle, limping heavily and making my slow way through rush hour. Two very lovely people asked me if I was OK! I said i was just super dandy fine, did they not notice my husband some yards ahead of me.
I always help. Pissed up types, ladies with prams, bags, the unconcious you name it I get stuck in. Victims of crime, domestics (stepped in to one of them outside tottenham court road, got his ass arrested).
Perhaps it is more likely that i just follow my instinct.
Please refrain from calling us cunts infuture Mrs.CustardHardHat, you had a nasty experience, not London's fault
Yes my husband is an arsehole too.

ifeelloved · 14/04/2012 08:44

Really? Just Londoners? Cos I'm sure everyone in Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Cardiff would have fallen over themselves to help you [hmmm]

lolaflores · 14/04/2012 08:49

I think everyone feels it is ok to slate London. I mean we are big enough and ugly enough no? I have witnessed acts of true kindness and humanity in this city and I have lived elsewhere too and never seen people put themselves out a I have seen in London.
We look a bit frosty and up ourselves but that is a survival mechanism, but we are not heartless cunts.

QuintessentialShadows · 14/04/2012 08:53

What on earth were you doing, or thinking, hobbling around Brixton in tears on a friday night?

We I need to know what you were doing there, why you were limping, and crying, and why you took the tube, at midnight to Liverpool street, if you dont live in London?

LetsKateWin · 14/04/2012 08:53

I live in London and I always get LOADS of help when I'm out and about with DD. I don't think all Londoners are cunts.

MargueritaaPracatan · 14/04/2012 08:53

Oh a London bashing Fred. How tiresome.

lolaflores · 14/04/2012 08:55

Shadows she explained that bit a bit higher up. Physical probs and a heavy work load. though have to agree as to why on a tube at liverpool street. perhaps ont he way to the train station.

QuintessentialShadows · 14/04/2012 08:57

I once "hobbled" into a cab, outside the local train station, to go home. I had met a friend for a pizza. The cab driver told me he would not go the road with the speedbumps, in case I threw up in his cab. Shock

I asked him why on earth I would be sick! He said, "because you are drunk, I saw the way you got into the cab".

"I am 9 months pregnant, getting into a cab is not that easy".

He was very embarassed.

But London is full of drunk people at night, it is the basic assumption that any behaviour out of the ordinary is because people are under the influence of something.

QuintessentialShadows · 14/04/2012 08:59

Actually, still the same pregnancy, I once fell badly, stumbled in a lose paving stone, and badly graced my hands. (Still not drunk though) I fell next to a parked cab. I was sitting, on the pavement, big pregnant tummy, in agony and with bleeding hands. I though, "oh what luck, a cab, it can take me home". Cabbie looked at me, and drove off. I could have cried.

Rollersara · 14/04/2012 09:08

When I lived in London I had to get a train from Clapham Junction every day with my wheelchair. Clapham has no lifts, but I can walk up stairs. Every day for 6 years various strangers carried wheelie up the stairs in the morning and down again in the evening. Sometimes people offered, sometimes I asked, but no-one ever said no.

On one bizarre occasion a man in a suit decided I had deliberately rammed him in the tunnel and shoved my arm as I was wheeling along in the crowd. A group of teenagers shouted at him and then chased him up onto a platform.

So I don't believe all Londoners are cunts, but if you need help, it is best to ask.

NoButYeahBut · 14/04/2012 09:09

What a stupid thread title and offensive, YABU.

As many people have said if you wanted help you could have asked at any station.

People were probably worried about asking if you were ok and maybe offending you.

Maybe a lot of the people you saw did not have english as a first language or at that time on a friday night maybe some were the worse for wear and didn't feel able to help.

Either way as a Londoner i have always found if i've needed help and i've asked for it it has always been given.

Rollersara · 14/04/2012 09:12

Re cabs, I have also had cabs refuse to stop for me when on my own in the wheelchair. I have also had drivers take me all the way home from central London (about an £25 fare) and refuse to take any payment :)

crashdoll · 14/04/2012 09:13

YABU

What did you want them to do? If you were carrying a huge bag, then yes I would expect someone to offer but you're expecting far too much of strangers on the tube!

takeonboard · 14/04/2012 09:18

YABU
What an entitled attitude you have OP, most people would think that you are a c**t and your thread title seem to confirm it.

Softlysoftly · 14/04/2012 09:18

I do think the tube turns a lot of people (including those from outside London) into self survival evil people willing to trample their granny to get where they are going. Still travelling to London at 8mnths pg frequently using asthma inhaler and have still never been offered a seat on the tube, pushed out of the way and damn near crushed by feet for walking too slow. But that's by everyone including the bitchy American girl who's bag I accidentally touched with my bump!

Same people outside of the tube system are lovely individuals.

SoupDragon · 14/04/2012 09:21

So you didn't ask for help, you didn't phone anyone for help, you didn't take the easy option of a cab and therefore Londoners are cunts?? Confused

Lambzig · 14/04/2012 09:22

YABU, I have had loads of help travelling across london.

In the past three years I have:

  • had morning sickness so bad that i was getting off and throwing up on the platform - always looked after by passengers and given a seat when I got back on (didnt look pregnant so could have just been ill/bad hangover)
  • been pregnant and always without exception given a seat
  • travelled with a pushchair and always been helped up and down steps, onto the tube/train
  • got the pushchair stuck at the top of the escalator which resulted in it toppling over and a whole crowd of people helped me
  • had a really bad coughing fit at least three times and been offered water by fellow passengers

The whole being pregnant/travelling with a baby thing made me realise how lovely and helpful people are.

McFluffster · 14/04/2012 09:26

I would have asked if you needed help, drunk or not.

London obviously hasn't properly hardened me up yet.

Hope you are ok now.

analogue · 14/04/2012 09:36

Aw this reminds me of about 7 years ago, where I concluded that Londeners were not cunts afetr all, just wary of suspicious things and people!

I was making my way from King's Cross to Victoria on foot (!) because I had a huge suitcase and three bags, having just arrived from greece. I was about half a mile from Victoria when I realised my little bag with passport, money and all my worldy stuff was missing. I was in a panic and started looking frantically otherwise I couldn;t get home to the north east :-( a stranger saw me panicing and said "you haven't lost a bag have you?" I had dropped the bag on the road at a crossing a couple of blocks back. She told me that everyone was avoiding it in case it had a bomb!!!!

So I asked a guy nearby if he could watch my stuff while i ran back for it. Not only was the bag still in the road (with people walking around it) but when I got back, the guy was still standing there with all of my belongings. The lady told me it was a matter of time before somebody called the bomb squad hehe.

So I LOVE londeners, and after having a friend pickpocketed TWICE on one visit, I totally understand why they are wary of people behaving differently. I lived in Amsterdam for a while years ago and poeple were exactlyt the same.

SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 14/04/2012 09:43

You are obviously in pain OP so I will forgive you, and in any case enough people have already told you that you are the cunt around here being unreasonable.

But just to add my two pennorth, I lived in London until I was 18...more than 30 years later I still miss it, have firm plans to retire there, and whenever I go back I am amazed at just how open, accepting, and just plain civilised all the people are. Obviously my generalisation is almost as ridiculous as yours, but if you want stand offish, clannish, unwelcoming, judgey, just try living in a rural village for a bit.

Get well soon!

Panamfan · 14/04/2012 09:46

YABVU to base it on one incident. I tripped and fell just outside Farringdon station once. About 4 people came rushing over to see if I was okay. I couldn?t get up for about 5 mins as I had twisted my ankle. A lovely man crouched by me, just talking and joking with me. Even though I told him I was fine, he waited till I could get up and made sure I could walk. Still feel teary when I think of how kind he was. In your case, it being so late at night can?t have helped, as people were probably just not paying attention and were rushing to get home. I have been to many cities and Londoners are one of the niceset.
Hope you okay now.

crazynanna · 14/04/2012 10:04

Londoner calling Smile

'Course we are not all cunts'...except if you happen to wander down Whitehall then it's Cunt Central.

The tube is a wonderful place.
I saw a homeless guy once on a Northern Line train doing a bit of busking using a paint tin as a drum. He sang:

"Postman Pat
Postman Pat
Where's my Giro
You Fat Twat!"

Grin

I was so impressed I gave him a quid.

wherearemysocks · 14/04/2012 10:11

Another Londoner here who thinks you are being completely unreasonable.

A while back a friend of mine stopped to help someone in the tube who was drunk and had fallen down the stairs. Whilst she was helping them someone stole her wallet from her back pocket. So there you go, one good samaritan and one cunt, and many people who were neither.

As for the comments up thread about helping a girl but not a bloke, I run pubs for a living and I used to have one in Leicester Sq and then in Piccadilly Circus. Believe me I would rather deal with a drunk bloke than girl and day.

If someone looked like they needed an ambulance then I would stop and help, but other than that I would proberly stear clear.

mosschops30 · 14/04/2012 10:14

So much about your OP is Hmm i dont know where to start.

However in defence of londoners when me and ds were on the tube last year we got on, it was busy, hes 7 and able bodied etc, a young boy of 16/17 offered his seat to ds, even though he was sat with his mates.
Similarly recently ds had a seat, an elderly gentleman got on with his gcs, they got seats but he stood so i sat ds on my lap and the guy had a seat.

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