to complain about Londoners?

[NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat]

I have just gone from brixton to Liverpool street in tears and with a very heavy limp. I am in agony right now and not one person has stopped to ask if im ok.

Considering the time (midnight) if you saw a woman limping through the tube network in tears would you stop her and ask if she's ok? Or aibu to think someone might have helped me?

disclaimer: i met people at both ends of the journey so am home fine just pissed off at how people will just walk past someone in such obvious difficulty. Aibu to be disgusted by it?

when my mum was pregnant with me, she fainted in the street (they lived in london at the time)

Nobody helped her and someone actually stepped over her.

I would not use that to say that everyone who lives in the whole of london is a 'cunt' though, but I do wonder if there is something about city life, all those people, all the times you see bad things, etc that makes some people put blinkers on or something, or stop caring about their fellow human beings.

oh, and I stress the word some in that last sentence

stop caring about their fellow human beings

We dont though, we just are more reserved for various reasons some of which have been stated.

My experience of Londoners, as a disabled traveller last year, was that they were surprisingly fantastic. They were helpful and curteous and life-saving (in the case of the nice man who grabbed me as my walking frame decided to make a break for freedom down the gap between the tube and the platform)

YABU, on three counts. One for specifically targeting Londoners; two for describing them as c; three for whinging with no good reason

I have spoken with a number of pregnant women who have complained about fellow londoners not giving up their seats on the tube or generally bending over backwards for them.

I am a londoner, and when I was pregnant, I was bowled over by the kindness of strangers, both men and women. I barely stepped on to the tube before someone would stand up and offer me their seat. People would offer to carry my bags of shopping up stairs for me! I am not alone, a number of good friends have had a very similar experience of being pregnant in London.

My view is that if you stand / walk about with a face like a smacked arse of discontent and irritation, then people are going to be loathe to help you for fear that you will growl 'f**k off, I am fine'.

If they don't offer, just ask politely. People can feel ackward making the first move, but then very pleased to help once asked.

Did you ask anyone for help? Ime Londoners can be amazingly supportive and helpful to complete strangers so I think YABVU.

Hope you feel better this morning.

Should add that I am not a Londoner but have worked in London for the last 27 years.

I hope you are feeling better and the painkillers are doing their job.

However, what you said was horrible, really mean.

I have am a London, I was born here as was my OH and all my DCs.
So I reckon I have more experience of whether all Londoners are cunts or not.

I hate this idea that London is an unfriendly city. London is a huge city made up of hundreds of distinct areas, each with their own identity.

I think many people visit with the attitude 'Im not going to let any Londoner get one over on me/mug me/be rude to me/grope my wife/spit at my baby .....

They come here expecting trouble and sit on the tube glaring lest anyone dare trouble them.

I have had far more trouble in places that I have visited. We stopped going to the West Country for a while because of some horrible experiences. I didnt think all people in all of the counties were cunts. Infact it was incomers who gave us the hassle.

I just didnt want to give my money to peope who were going to be rude, unwelcoming and downright sodding racist towards us. Luckily my entire family decamped to Devon so we were able to keep visiting without lining the pockets of nasty gits.

And we have never had any trouble from ordinary Devon folk.

Anyway. I expect the OP felt desperate and pain does awful things and can make you angry and unreasonable.

So I will have to let her off this time.

I'm a Londoner, but moved to Yorkshire 12 years ago, and I take issue with the unreasonable title of this thread. You will find that many Londoners have been stung at one time or another by people either faking injury/distress so that their accomplice can then step in to mug them; or they've offered help only to be verbally abused.
Some of my experiences:
Living in Highgate, we saw a guy from our window, doubled over and looking as if he was in dreadful pain, so we went to ask if he was ok. He answered that he would be as soon as we two bitches had fucked off.
While heavily pregnant, I tripped and fell while about to get on a bus. All the people in the queue stepped over me to get on the bus. Luckily the conductor waited till I'd got on and someone gave me a seat. I sat there in tears with bleeding knees and hands, and ripped tights, while the arseholes who'd stepped over me looked totally unconcerned. I had to travel like this all the way to Bow from the West End, and nobody even offered me a tissue.
I fell down the stairs at Oxford Circus and about five people stopped to pick me up and help me down the rest of the stairs and onto the train.
I always found it was women who gave me a seat on the tube when I was pregnant and commuting, never men.
My sister had her bag containing return train tickets nicked while having a coffee, waiting for the train. Although he shouldn't have done, the lovely ticket office man gave her tickets for the next train without charging any more, and she was on her way within half an hour. A couple of weeks later, a woman who found the purse, very kindly sent it back to her.
Like another poster, I've been driven home by a kind tube station worker after missing the last train, because he said he'd hope someone would help his daughter if she was in a similar situation.

All Londoners, some shitbags and some lovely. You can't smear an entire city just because you didn't get help on one occasion. You never know when helpful people are going to be around, or when only rotten ones are. Given the time of night, I would imagine most people would be suspicious and wary of a possible trap. Also, London isn't just full of Londoners either, so are all the other people tarred with the same brush?

I take real offence to the title of your thread.

Cunts are everywhere, not just in London.

weird and needy. What would you have had the cunts do? Carry you? If you wanted help you could have asked for it and it would have been offered.

I wouldn't approach someone just because they had a limp - I would assume they had a disability and were dealing with it unless there was any obvious way I could assist (carry a bag for example). As for the crying, I did go up to a woman who was sitting on a park bench (Cavendish Square, London, as it happens) crying in the middle of the day and she told me to fuck off which I thought was fair enough to be honest.

If you'd sat down and asked someone to call you an ambulance or a cab then of course someone would have helped you.

I hope you're feeling better now, ffs take it easier

I live and am from Liverpool, normally i am a 'talk to anyone' type of person and do not judge anyone for being drunk or on drugs and will askif they need help, if they are in distress.

However if i am travelling at night, i act differently, to protect myself, which we all have the right to do so.

You were mobile and had the means to travel, so tbh, i probably would have minded my own business.

yabu, obviously.
Is it possible you looked a bit mad? Londoners tend not to approach mad looking people on the tube late at night, for reasons of self preservation.
I'm sure though if you'd been in say Preston or Swindon every single person would have stopped and checked to see if you were alright . Yes. It's clearly the fact that all Londoners are cunts that's the problem here.

Another native Londoner here, I would probably have asked you (from a wary distance) if you were OK. I have intervened in situations in the past and sometimes I've been thanked and sometimes I've been told exactly what to go and do with myself and once or twice I've been thumped. Oh, and thrown up on, that was fun. So now I am more inclined to keep out of range while asking what's up, and would offer to fetch station staff rather than doing anything myself.

Ex-Londoner here. I wouldn't have said anything. I'd have assumed you were attention seeking and drunk.
I'm a bitch.

late night on the tube you see lots of strange things going on but yes someone should have at least asked if you are ok

maybe it is something you give off, i was always offerend a seat when i was pregnant have ds with me, always get help with buggy. maybe the nice lononers tune in to me beign nice to and lend a helping hand :)

hope you feeling better soon

Ex Londoner here too

a pox on your thread title.....I'd have probably not have intervened personally, but would have kept an eye on you if we'd been heading the same direction, maybe offered some help or alerted tube/train staff. So maybe that makes me a nosey half bitch?? Not quite as hard as Eeyore

Have also seen many offers of help and decency from all sorts to all sorts...posh suited folks helping people with buggies, burly punk with the biggest mohawk chasing someone who'd dropped their wallet, ...now that "OI mate.... wait" was funny :o and a group of maurauding teens virtually swoosh two very frail looking pensioners up some stairs at Kings Cross with their massive luggage...all boys and polite, the old lady looked a little shell shocked till one of them said "you look like my gran!" as they settled them at the top of the stairs and went on their way.

so not all cunts, no!

I'm not a Londoner but commute every day. YABU, OP. I hope you're feeling better.

I fell over on my way to my station and twisted my ankle. A nice man came over and checked I was okay, which I hadn't expected.

There are so many weirdos/drunkards/drugged ups on the tubes at midnight its hard to tell what is what, that is the issue.

Oh gosh yes. Because you must have encountered ALL Londoners on your midnight tube journey where most travellers are either young people on their way out or drunk people on their way home. Definitely NBU for tarring each and every Londoner with the cunt brush.

But I'm probably biased, being a London cunt and all.

Standing on the tube how would anyone know you were limping? If you asked for a seat and were turned down then fair enough, that person was a cunt but for those others you encountered on your journey who had no idea you were suffering you're being very predjudiced.

Any time I have encountered rude behaviour in the capital it has been from people visiting for the day- ie: a fat scouser down for a football match.

Yabu.

Ps: what exactly did you expect people to do for you?

If I saw someone crying and limping on the tube, I'd ask if they were OK, give them tissues and try to make sure they had a seat.

But as a Londoner, if you called me a cunt to my face, I'd smack you into next week.

Hope this clears things up :)

What a vile thread title. For that alone, YABU.

I'd say a lot of people on this thread have already said what I would like to, and far better. What I would say is I have never had a problem with being helped on the tube. I periodically faint on the underground, especially in hot weather. People have been unfailingly kind and helpful to me, quite often interrupting their own (probably important) journeys to do so. It's not always the people you expect either, quite often the most helpful people are the city suits.

I do my best to return the favour and help anyone who needs it. Yes, I've been shouted at by grumpy types, but it won't stop me offering help in the future.