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AIBU?

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to complain about Londoners?

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NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/04/2012 00:45

I have just gone from brixton to Liverpool street in tears and with a very heavy limp. I am in agony right now and not one person has stopped to ask if im ok.

Considering the time (midnight) if you saw a woman limping through the tube network in tears would you stop her and ask if she's ok? Or aibu to think someone might have helped me?

disclaimer: i met people at both ends of the journey so am home fine just pissed off at how people will just walk past someone in such obvious difficulty. Aibu to be disgusted by it?

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HolyLentenPromiseBatman · 14/04/2012 01:32

OP where are you from? I'm working on a 'AIBU to think that all people from are prejudiced, judgemental idiots' based on....erm....you.

Then I'm going to do 'AIBU to think that people from Berkshire look like eggs with faces painted on them'....based on David Cameron.

MissFaversham · 14/04/2012 01:32

Grin at Ruby. Blimey and i thought ive had a few.

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 14/04/2012 01:35

Understood, Ruby. Hope you are okay now OP.

MissFaversham · 14/04/2012 01:37

Ok OP. Im London born and bread and I'd like to think on the whole we are lovely. It's a huge city now and to be honest I wouldn't travel on the tube late at night. I also stop to ask at the slightest distress of a person.

Hope you're ok sweetheart, and hoping you'll soon be walkin back up them "apples and pears" Grin

ElaineBenes · 14/04/2012 01:42

I've always found people on the tube help one another. And if someone would have ASKED me for help, I would do my best but I doubt I would approach a crying grown woman, especially late at night.

RubyFakeNails · 14/04/2012 01:54

Waves to fellow Londoners defending ourselves! Love London and Love Londoners.

We Are Not Cunts Grin !

Wittsend13 · 14/04/2012 01:54

I once fell flat on my face 6 months pregnant at Brixton tube station and not one person asked if I was ok or even helped me up :( (I slipped on a credit card someone must have dropped I was wearing rubber plimsolls)

YANBU but not all Londoners are cnuts. I'd have asked if you were ok!

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2012 02:01

Brixton is not the nicest tube station. I was once outside waiting for a friend when, I AM NOT JOKING, a man ran out of the station, grabbed a bottle from the bin, smashed it on the bin side and ran back in. The blues and twos arrived one minute later. Freaked me the fuck out though.

mybabyweightiseightyearsold · 14/04/2012 02:12

Och, you might be sore. You might be grumpy. It might be late. I might agree that London is the least friendly place I'e lived....

but, 8 million meanies? Even taking into account for the law of averages that's just silly.

pop a painkiller, they'll all seem nicer in the morning.

FuckedOfftotheFarSideofFuck · 14/04/2012 02:21

While your experience sounds horrible and upsetting YABU to say Londoners are cunts.

It has a reputation of being an unfriendly city but I found I often got seats on the bus or tube when pregnant. I found that when I was in tears (usually after bidding goodbye to long-distance boyfriend of the time) on the tube network, someone would always ask if I was ok.

When I fainted in the middle of Boots, several people helped me.

Sounds like you were unlucky. Glad you are drugged up and feeling better now.

nooka · 14/04/2012 02:38

I think that the time was the problem. If I was traveling late at night I would not want to approach anyone really, especially in Brixton, which in my experience is a slightly scary station. It is quite a London characteristic to generally ignore other people though - many people have had bad experiences or are just too preoccupied to notice much.

I'm London raised but we now live in a small town in Canada (where people are generally at least on the surface very nice, always have time for each other etc). I might feel that Londoners were pretty horrible now I guess.

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2012 03:09

Really nooka? I also moved from London to Canada (BC) and find that actually, Londoners might have been a bit brusque but small town Canada can be racist, sexist, extremely homophobic (the amount of gay people I know who moved from small town Canada) and very unforgiving of any flaws. Homeless people and disabled people are begging on the streets and die in quite horrifying numbers here and they don't even count the homeless properly. Not worth the bother. i was quite proud of London treatment of homeless people, addicts and the mentally ill after I had been here a while.

maytheoddsbeeverinyourfavour · 14/04/2012 03:16

Sorry you're having a crappy time of it op, but yes YABU

Also I'm not sure what you would want someone to do to help? I use a wheelchair most of the time, but sometimes I can go a short distance using crutches.when I do this I look a right bloody state and I'm clearly in lots of pain, and though its very kind of some people to stop and ask me if I need help there is bugger all they can do, so I always thank themi sincerely for asking but tell then no thank you because, well, what else can I say?!
I do appreciate the thought though

It would have been nice if someone checked if you were ok, but you can't really blame them for not...my DH asked an elderly lady who was struggling to get off a bus of she'd like a hand and she told him to "fuck right off" Grin

Really hope you feel better soon though

TapirBackRider · 14/04/2012 04:52

Another who was born & bred in London (moved away now); last time I attempted to help somebody on the tube, I was assaulted & robbed.

I do understand your position, but I feel that YABU.

nooka · 14/04/2012 04:57

We've not experienced much of that, or at least no more than in England (the sexism, racism, homophobia that is). The treatment of the homeless I do find very uncomfortable, and you are right I think that the UK does much much better on that front. Our town does lots of fundraising, food bank stuff etc, but it still seems wrong to me that anyone should need to go to a food bank or soup kitchen.

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2012 05:08

It does interest me that Canadians do so much fundraising and charity work but complain like toddlers about paying tax. People shouldn't have to use foodbanks and community kitchens because there should be no one hungry in a rich democracy.

BTW I don't think there is more ism thinking than the UK but that there is such hypocrisy. People think they are nice but are happy to let ill people die on the streets. I will admit I am biased. I worked for years in London with homeless people and felt good. Came here and within a year I had two murders outside the shelter I worked in. Lots more deaths as well. From drugs and suicide. Wouldn't happen in London. Cunts though we are.

verytellytubby · 14/04/2012 05:08

I'm not a cunt. But London is a busy mental place and I might not have noticed your pain.

You should have got a cab. Hope you've slept ok.

NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/04/2012 05:21

Its good to see a city united :o

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MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2012 05:27

You're supposed to be sleeping OP. I hope you feel better.

nooka · 14/04/2012 05:30

I can totally see why you'd feel that way. I suspect that having lived in the States for a while our sensitivities were probably lowered, as the Canadian approach is generally a bit more people friendly than in the US (or at least the blaming for experiencing misfortune is less overt). I did hate staying in Toronto at the end of the winter and seeing people sleeping on the streets in the snow with the heated shopping centres below with all the security guards. That felt particularly callous.

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2012 05:36

Oooooo you have hit on my no 1 reason that lovely Canadians let people starve to death. "WE ARE NOT AS BAD AS THE YANKS". It means that all the Canadians think that they are awesome because they look south. They should look east or west.

EmmaRoyd · 14/04/2012 05:37

YABU, to classify all Londoners as cunts. I generally help people or ask people if they are ok and I find other people help me too. When I get the train or tube with DC's someone always offers to help carry the buggy up the stairs.

Sorry you had a bad experience.

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2012 05:37

Sorry for the thread hijack. Nooka and I will go to bed soon.

NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/04/2012 05:43

I know what im supposed to be doing. My body has other ideas about this though! :o shouldn't laugh but its that or cry. Waiting for the house to wake up and the walk in (or should that be crawl in??) centre to open up so i can get some diazepam. Nerve pain sucks.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2012 05:46

Sorry sorry sorry for your pain. Chronic pain sucks. Londoners are still not cunts.