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to want to take my pushchair into my doctors surgery?

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gillquil · 09/04/2012 22:39

my g.p surgery has just banned pushchairs, I've them a letter that follows, is this the norm? or should I just change our G.P.?

Hello,

I would like to make a complaint about the forthcoming ban on pushchairs in the surgery from the first of April. I am a mother of three, my eldest child has just turned four and we have a double pushchair which we normally use for our two youngest. My youngest child has just turned one, and as is typical for his age, he wants to crawl and climb all the time, he definitely doesn?t want to sit on my lap while I wait, he will however normally wait happily in his pushchair, or sleep in it while we wait or during our appointments. My two year old daughter just wants to run around.

If I am unable to bring my pushchair into the surgery I am going to have to let my son crawl over the floor in the surgery which I can?t imagine being the most hygienic thing to do. Or when he is asleep I will have to wake him, and what if both he and his sister are sleeping? do I really want to wait for my appointment struggling with a sobbing two year old daughter and a crying one year old son, my handbag, and changing bag on the floor or on the seat next to me. All of which, toddler, and baby and baggage have to then be carried into the appointment. I would also like to know what is suggested for mothers who need for example to have their young child with them during say a smear test? Should I leave him to crawl around the floor in the surgery during this?

Parents that I know often rely on being able to entertain a young child or children in a pushchair so that they can speak to their G.P. or nurse for a few minutes uninterrupted. Or the child sleeps on through their appointment and waiting time, and the parent can have a proper conversation or treatment.
I don?t have the option of arranging childcare for the times when I need to come to the surgery, especially as we normally ring at 8 a.m to see what appointment we can get if any for that morning.

I asked about the security of the area that has been designated for pushchairs to be left. As far as the lady I spoke to knew, there is none, it seems that the surgery is relying on the area being ?out of sight.? I disagree anyone walking past will be able to see a row of unsecured pushchairs. Pushchairs cost as I am sure you know an enormous amount of money. We live close by and two of my neighbours have had pushchairs stolen from outside their own front doors in the last six months, and we had a child?s scooter taken ourselves. It was suggested also that I buy a bicycle style lock for our chair, but I can?t see what I would secure it to.

While I can see the need for some sort solution to the congestion in the waiting room, as a result of parents and children who are patients at XXX Surgery using pushchairs, I don?t feel that just telling people their only option is to leave their pushchairs outside, in an unsecured area, and carry in their child or children and changing bags, handbags and who knows even their shopping, is acceptable. In fact I think it?s discriminatory. I have spoken to several mothers today who are patients at XXX, as are their children, and they all agree, and have said they will be putting forward their comments also.

I look forward to your reply and hope that XXX can be a bit more creative in finding a solution that doesn?t leave patients feeling unwelcome.

OP posts:
SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 15:15

The more I think about it, the more I think it is a bad idea to leave newborns on the waiting room floor. They would represent a real trip hazard and I think are less noticeable than eg a pushchair. I think someone with vision problems is going to find it easier to see a pushchair than a newborn on the floor.

This is quite aside from the fact that they do not allow newborns to be left on the floor at our surgery.

I am a bit foxed at the DDA being raised as the solution to all of this as well. It doesn't make sense.

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 15:15

Oh hello Oopsi.

I expect you are pleased to see that there are more women who are not accessing medical treatment that they need because it is not accessible for them.

Happy days eh Smile

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 15:17

Oh just a quick look back over your posts and you're the one who says women who want to be able to use a pushchair are poor parents, that one nappy is all you ever need to take out with a baby, that babies do not ever do explosive poos etc etc.

I gathered earlier in the thread that you were taking the piss, I didn't realise it was you still posting.

i hope no-one takes your comments to heart.

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 15:19

You also claim that smears are every 3 years which is not true if you have had dodgy test results, they call you back more often.

And of course what with cervical cancer being quite good at killing you, it would be nice to be able to go.

Mind you a few less mothers in the world might be a good thing to some on this thread.

Smile
bigjoeent · 11/04/2012 15:30

SardineQueen Grin

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 15:56

I don't understand it

Q Should GPs surgeries be accessible to those who need them
A Of course, unless they are mothers, in which case of course not

On MN for crying out loud!

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 11/04/2012 16:05

of course they should be, but when they're already built without accesability in mind then do you really suggest they ignore the fire safety issues? (which shouldn't be there in the first place, they should be built to be buggy friends/mobility issue friendly/blind/deaf/friendly etc AND allow for fire safety with it!)

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 11/04/2012 16:06

it boils down to a difference of opinion about which is worse: less acessability or less people getting out alive in a fire.

I don't think anyone WANTS it to be a case of having to choose between the two, we'ld all like if both were catered for, but they're not so now in a lot of crappily planned surgeries the choice has to be made!

EasilyBored · 11/04/2012 16:06

Oopsi, don't want to speak for 5mad, but maybe she doesn't want her teenage DC in the consultation room with her, as she discusses her private health concerns. As she said, she often has to strip off so the Dr can see her skin, would you want your teenage child in with you while you did that?

hazeyjane · 11/04/2012 16:13

but some surgeries do implement h+s rules sensibly ie please can you try and leave your buggy in the porch, but if this is going to make your appointment a complete nightmare then can you make sure it is kept out of peoples way, exits etc, this makes them more easily accessible for everyone.

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:20

I wonder how people are supposed to get all of these children out in the event of a fire TBH.

If you have made it up the flight of stairs with your dodgy leg and your young twins and your toddler, how are you supposed to get them out if there is a fire?

TBH the surgery I go to has stacks of room. I suspect they want to discourage people from bringing children to appts.

ClaireAll · 11/04/2012 16:21

I'm sure members of the public would be happy to scoop up a small child. Not everyone is self-obsessed.

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:22

It doesn't really matter though, they are banned in loads of places and that is that. Women do what they can or not as the case may be. My children are both walking now so luckily it is no longer an issue for me.

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 11/04/2012 16:24

"If you have made it up the flight of stairs with your dodgy leg and your young twins and your toddler, how are you supposed to get them out if there is a fire?"

you would have to go down the stairs to get out
you cannot use a lift in a fire, so even if they let you up with the buggy, you would still have to use the stairs without it to get out, but in the process you'ld have to negotiate all the abandoned buggies

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:36

Why are you talking about lifts?

Confused
SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:37

In my surgery in those circs it would be nice of them to give you an appt on the ground floor.

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:37

Well it wouldn't be nice of them, sensible and practical maybe.

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 11/04/2012 16:37

weren't you asking how they'ld get out without buggies?

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:38

I think the point is that you wouldn't get out.

Same as in real life, you wouldn't have got in.

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:39

Do you think that a woman with a dodgy leg, twins and a toddler is going to be able to get up a flight of stairs to see the doctor in the first place?

That was my point. She wouldn't be there.
And if by some miracle she was there (maybe someone helped carry the babies up the stairs) she sure as hell wouldn't be getting out.

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 11/04/2012 16:40

and yes it would be nice and sensible if they had most of their human traffic on the ground floor, not the soddin' second floor with a load of wasted space and admin on the ground floor Angry

No idea what the first floor is used for. At least the pharmacy is on the ground floor so that's something I suppose!

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 11/04/2012 16:40

Good point Cremeeggs.

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:41

OK then ground floor. Say the woman with the mobility issues has got her twins and toddler to the consulting room by shuttling backwards and forwards and leaving them on the floor and all the rest of it.

How is she supposed to get them out?

SardineQueen · 11/04/2012 16:43

What happens to the baby who is left on the floor in reception when the fire alarm goes off and everyone starts running around.

That would be very dangerous, surely?

ClaireAll · 11/04/2012 16:45

I'm sure the risk assessments for the building would mean they have fire sweepers.

You are getting paranoid with all these scenarios.

Leave the risk assessing to the experts for that building. They will think about the baby that the mother leaves behind and will have mitigation in place.