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To still not understand Easter?

193 replies

Kayano · 04/04/2012 13:03

I was raised a catholic and attended catholic school.
I got an A* in my RS GCSE because I had been bashed round the head with a bible for many years not because I tried

But although I get Easter. Crucifixtion, raised from the dead three days later...

Why does it MOVE?!

I'm sure I know this but now I am an adult and have finally said you know what? Bull I still don't understand why the date changes.

I mean. Jesus was born on one day (Christmas... Supposedly) 25th Dec

Presumably he died one day too... Why does it not stay the same date then? Jesus died this day... Blah blah april... Jesus last year might have died this day march... Blah blah

? Can someone explain it to me

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Diamondback · 04/04/2012 15:12

Easter = Eastre, the Anglo-Saxon Goddess of the Dawn (the 'Light of the World', even) and of Fertility.

Hares (bunnies) and Eggs - pre-Christian symbols of fertility and spring. Hares are also often associated with female Gods and female power.

Chocolate = any excuse really Wink

ethelb · 04/04/2012 15:14

a lot of other languages use words for Easter that are derivatives of Pasha or Pesach, meaning passover.

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Kayano · 04/04/2012 15:18

I'm still Grining at 'You MUST eat fish'

Lol

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RhinosDontEatEasterEggs · 04/04/2012 15:31

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nickelhasababy · 04/04/2012 15:33

yes, the immaculate conception was Mary.
she was born "without sin" as she wasn't conceived through sex.
which was what gave her the perfect qualification to be Jesus' mother.

nickelhasababy · 04/04/2012 15:35

and the name Easter has nothing to do with the Rising of Jesus.
It's just adopted from the period of year, ifaik.

Sposh · 04/04/2012 15:36

Speaking of virgin births, I spend a lot of my day with my head in other people's medical records and I actually really came across a proper virgin birth yesterday. Young woman was pregnant, swore she'd never had penetrative sex and this was verified by an internal exam Shock

She must have got pretty close to it mind Wink

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Kayano · 04/04/2012 15:39

SPOSH!

Really!!!! Omg!!!!

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nickelhasababy · 04/04/2012 15:45

that happened in Scrubs, too.

We had it drummed into us at school that we could still get pregnant if we did stuff with boys naked even if we didn't have full sex.

WillowFae · 04/04/2012 15:46

To be honest, as a Christian the fact that the date moves doesn't bother me at all. I'm marking the event, not the specific day that it happened.

But yes, it is passover related.

Sposh · 04/04/2012 15:47

I also had one recently when a married couple didn't have 'conventional' sex. They had conceived their first born using some kind of fertilisation method that involved using a quill?!! Shock

I love my job Grin

Chilenachica · 04/04/2012 16:13

Princess

I'm not looking for a fight here, but growing up in London, C of E school, church & Sunday school etc, I was taught that it was an immaculate conception because the mother of Jesus was a virgin. Nothing about her conception or birth, in fact nothing other than that she was the virgin wife who gave birth in a stable. I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

ethelb · 04/04/2012 16:18

@chil it was an immaculate conception as Mary was conceived without original sin. The virgin birth was the birth of Jesus. The annuciation was when she was told she had conceived by the holy spirit.

That is correct. Though commonly misunderstood and confuzzelled.

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 04/04/2012 16:19

I think the RCs take the immaculate conception idea back one generation further than the C of Es - so that not only Jesus was born of a virgin but Mary was also "immaculately conceived" too.

I don't know what the problem is with the usual method really - it worked well for us and produced my two lovelies, and FWIR was quite fun too Wink

ethelb · 04/04/2012 16:19

@juggling I don't think CofE understand what the immaculate conception is. What the hell is the annunciation then?

nickelhasababy · 04/04/2012 16:20

Juggling - no, we believe Mary was immaculate too.

nickelhasababy · 04/04/2012 16:21

the Annunciation is when the Angel Gabriel came to Mary and told her she was going to have Jesus

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 04/04/2012 16:23

FWIR the annunciation is where Mary is told by the angel that she will become the mother of Christ

ethelb · 04/04/2012 16:23

@nickle I know! I just said that upthread!

Scorpette · 04/04/2012 16:24

Crockoduck, I love you! It's not often I meet other people who don't believe Jesus actually existed. We need a special gang sign to recognise each other with. Grin

Kayano, the reason why it's confusing is because it's all a crock of shit. Your logical mind can't make sense of it cos it knows there is no sense to it.

Sposh, some women have an extra-thick hymen that doesn't fully rip or disappear when they lose their virginity. My Mum had to have hers removed with a minor op when she was 8 mos pg with me! I am rather special, ahem.

Seriously, grown adults without mental health problems can't actually believe in an immaculate conception, can they? WTAF?!

Kladdkaka · 04/04/2012 16:24

At catecism classes I was taught that the immaculate conception meant that Mary was a virgin when she conceived and remained so throughout her life.

ponders which penguins are edible on Friday. Original or orangey ones. Or even minty. Yum, yum

Kladdkaka · 04/04/2012 16:25

Hail Scorpette: the new messiah!

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 04/04/2012 16:25

I thought that's what I'd said nickel - but I could have got it wrong, it's all quite confusing and I'm certainly not an expert on the Catholic faith. (Probably see things with a bit of CofE bias as that's what I grew up in, but I have equal respect/ scepticism for both now, and have found a home with the Quakers)

Sposh · 04/04/2012 16:26

Scorpette - never heard of the extra strong hymen before! Although in the case of the virgin pregnancy I came across yesterday I would say that because of the age of the mother I could well believe that she hadn't had penetrative sex. She was V V V young.

ethelb · 04/04/2012 16:26

@Kladdkaka and @Chil the people who taught you had their wires crossed or just didn't understand.