AIBU to be a bit shocked at some of the reactions to CB cuts on MN?

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Yes, it will be a bit crappy to lose CB but some of the suggestions/views by some mners are imo no better than people who fiddle tax credits?

The ironic thing for me here is that a couple earning 49k apiece probably would just suck up being told they were going to lose the benefit without whingeing. Why? Because they earn the money. They know nothing is free. But to be a sahm with a partner on 60k is to be in a position where there is much cossetting and a loss of sense of how much money is worth. Something had to be done about this. If a person has a partner on 60k they are not poor and should be grateful to have a gilded life. Their complaining is totally unreasonable.

HappyMummy - I do hope it's nice on your planet.

Wamster - your view of sahms there is pretty offensive. Since when did staying at home with your kids detach your from reality? Do you realise that sahms underpin the voluntary sector of our society? I am a wohm btw.

what will happen to NI contributions of SAHP who lose CB?

If you continue to claim it - even if you end up with no net benefit - your NI contributions are protected. Thus two systems will be involved instead of one and many partners will be compelled to say to the other 'you need to faff with tax returns and paying more tax so that I can continue to claim this benefit without which my pension is screwed'. How many families do you think will simply not bother?

for what its worth, i dont think they have went the right way about it. I think it should be based on household income.

Actually I might be wrong on that - it may be that you can claim but not receive the payment. I don't find the hmrc website to be totally clear!

Wamster, your last post is only valid if the DH shares his £60k with his wife and DCS.
Maybe the only income she has to feed her children is the CB.
He is in a privileged position, not her, but she will end up paying for it, not him.

"Where's the threads outraged by the halving of the disability element of CTC for families with disabled children?"

I've seen those threads.

I haven't seen anyone on them lambasting people pissed off about losing them for being "entitled".

AFAIK everyone will still get given the money but those earning over £50K will need to declare receipt of CB on their tax return, it will then be paid back.

Everyone paying HR tax should already be filling in a tax return.

Personally I don't mind loosing the benefit, but I am really narked that a households with a larger income than ours will keep it.

Well if i was married to a man earning 60k and he expected me to feed the children on the child benefit id divorce the fucker and get more in maintainence.
I cant believe that people are so up in arms about losing such a small amount of money when they are living on more than some of us can ever dream of.
We are both working and come nowhere near that income as are many others.

There is so much bollocks about this, I'm sick of it. Hiding all the CB threads now

furry Yes that is ridiculous,the one thing he should have changed he didnt.

YABU in believing that a Internet forums posters will all hold one view; it is only to be expected that there would be a huge vast range of opinion.

"But to be a sahm with a partner on 60k is to be in a position where there is much cossetting and a loss of sense of how much money is worth. Something had to be done about this. If a person has a partner on 60k they are not poor and should be grateful to have a gilded life. Their complaining is totally unreasonable."

Jesus, the filthy spite on this thread would curl your hair!

£60,000 is not a fucking "gilded life" - the middle class matters to a functioning democracy.

You are quite happy to fuck the modestly wealthy and leave the truly gilded to evade taxes through off-shore accounts.

The Tories are right though - the people of Britain are ready to have everything that makes life stable and pleasant for most them taken away from them for the benefit of the massively wealthy.

And they'll give this stuff away because they are so jealous of people just a little bit better off than they are.

Or because they're so foolish that they think taking things away from the moderately well off will help the seriously poor.

A new feudalism - no more entitlements, no rights, no fairness, just lots of poor people begging for scraps from the tables of the seriously rich.

I doubt those earning 60k will be begging for scraps though

but whilst everyone is up in arms about someone on a good wage loosing a benefit, they are not noticing the other stuff.
the changes to DLA for one, will mean poverty and yep death for some very vulnerable people. where is the outrage for that,
when we have done threads about it, no interest.
yet a benefit is taking away from people who should not need benefits, outrage, loads of posts, and well hysteria.

It's not hysterical to be concerned about the underlying principles of UK taxation. Nor the unfairness of family A on £100k continuing to receive something that family B on £60k will not.

But I agree with the general point, for a Government can produce such appallingly ill-thought through and incompetent proposals in one area can hardly be expected to act fairly and competently in others.

moominsarescary indeed definitely not on the breadline, but not exactly living in a castle with a team of servants and our own personal helicopter

I find the intense hatred that seems to emanate from some posters towards those earning over about £40K very depressing. We pay at least a third of our household income in tax but this clearly just isn't enough for some people.

I don't hate anyone because they earn a good wage.why would anyone.
But I do get pissed of with the mass hysteria, yet when the vulnerable are hit, nothing, no interest

I don't think that's true. i've seen plenty of outrage on here at the changes to disability benefit etc

The problem is, not everyone with children is personally affected by the loss of DLA, but everyone with children is affected by the loss of CB. That's why it's caused such a huge outcry.

moominsarescary indeed definitely not on the breadline, but not exactly living in a castle with a team of servants and our own personal helicopter

That statement would be funny if it wasn't so sad, you do realise there are people with disabilities loosing money they use for food and fuel, there too skint to make jokes about servants and helicopters.

Wow, so much venom against high earners. My dh works exceptionally hard for his high wage and worked his way up from nothing. I'm a freelancer on an average wage and we will lose the cb and yes, I'm pissed off about it!