AIBU to be a bit shocked at some of the reactions to CB cuts on MN?

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Yes, it will be a bit crappy to lose CB but some of the suggestions/views by some mners are imo no better than people who fiddle tax credits?

eh?

your not wrong, huge sense of entitlement and hypocrisy

Can you give an example OP?

Your OP is not clear: would you rephrase it.

Yes and you will probably see some of them on threads complaining about benefit cheats

A thread about a/some thread/s...

Bit more shocked at yet another thread that could have been posted on the many original threads!

Example

Can my exp claime as I am no longer entitled.

Can I refuse to give them information about dh's earnings

It's completely different
People are having a long standing perfectly legitimate benefit taken off them, in some cases unfairly.
Its a very poorly thought out policy, and children will lose out

You can't blame people for trying to find a way around it

I will no longer be eligible to claim as DH earns a fair bit above the threshold. TBF our household shouldn't be getting benefits, there are far more people in this country who needs it way more.

they will still be benefit cheats though, however you dress it up.

It's not different really though, is it? What does "long standing perfectly legitimate benefit" mean, anyway? If the government decides you're no longer entitled to it, that's that surely - it's no longer legitimate to go on claiming it, and it's certainly not legitimate to lie about your circumstances to try to keep claiming it anyway.

Not sure how much a child in a family with at least one income of over £60,000 a year can be said to be 'losing out' either, TBH...

CB should be completely abolished though.

agree CB should be abolished completely. Use the universal credit to replace CB.
To be honest, if you can't afford a child, dont have one.

What if you have a child and then lose your job? ...oh never mind cfba

Well, I shall miss my £2500. It's true we have a decent income and don't "need" it, but I'll notice when it has gone.

But I wouldn't dream of hiding information/lying just so I could keep it.

'Can I refuse to give them information about dh's earnings? '

This strikes at the heart of the principle of independent taxation. At present, one individual cannot compel anther to reveal details on income. Financial independence for women has been a long and hard battle. A Government can of course rescind any part of tax law or practice that it wishes.

But chucking out this principle with so little acknowledgement or debate is just wrong. This question about refusal is both important and telling.

If people can retain their CB through legal measures, good luck to them.

EdithWeston, but this principle has been 'chucked out' for a long, long time. I don't understand your comment -which seems to be saying that it is only being chucked out now.
Everybody who claims a means-tested benefit who lives with a partner is asked to provide details about their partner's income. It's not a new thing, is it? Or am I missing something here.

Refusing to give information is, of course, fine, but then the claim won't be processed and no benefit claimed.

I do think that it is wrong to tax people as individuals but treat them as households when it comes to benefits, I agree 100%, but it's not new (?)

That is not the chucking out of this principle.

That us making a joint claim for the household, with consent of both and aggregating the income of both.

This is not remotely the same thing. It could be (and IMHO would be a better thing) if it were. Not least as it would eliminate the unfair "step" it introduces (all households on joint income of £60 k to lee it, not just some).

But what is proposed is for individual A to have to disclose aspects of the financial situation of person B. This is the breach of the hard won principle.

but surely it is new to those earning over £60k as they will not previously have been claiming any benefits such as child tax credits where household income is required.

Ah, I see.

I was a low earner :( and was a single parent to one ds. When my dp moved in (he was obviously a step parent to my ds) I lost all my ctc/wtc which was essentially about half his wage at that time. He obviously had to more or less take over financially running our home and being financially responsible for a child that was not his. If I had came on here at that time and asked if i was being unreasonable not declaring his income etc Im pretty sure i would have been flamed, and rightly so.

A fred about lots of freds. What is the point here?

And I need to add that the both us dont make nowhere near £60 between us.