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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 20:43

amberleaf, i got my info from a source other than the autopsy. So I will go with (your) the autopsy numbers.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:43

Amberleaf, also according to an eyewitness, and the forensic evidence. But maybe it's all just a conspiracy...

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 20:45

Zimmerman started the situation by following someone he didn't recognise and thought looked suspicious. Martin attacked him for following him. Who is it at fault here?

creighton · 14/07/2013 20:47

Tabitha, martin is clearly at fault for not bowing his head in the presence of a white man and asking for permission to be in that neighbourhood.

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 20:48

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diva100 · 14/07/2013 20:49

Everrything cosy said, there is something called a conscience, Zimmerman, may be free from jail but will never be free from himself.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:49

OldMac, it was generous of you to limit your criticism of that monumentally stupid post to that singular point.

LittleSporksBigSpork · 14/07/2013 20:51

Zimmerman, for racially profiling him and following him with gun after he was told that he didn't need to do that by 911 dispatches (something which he had done over 40 times previously for not liking black kids in his neighbourhood). If you're following with someone with their purse, you call out that you have their purse and wait. You don't follow them down an alley.

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 20:51

Racism is at the absolute heart of this disgraceful case. Zimmerman may be half Hispanic but he's very far from black.
There's a distinct whiff of racism from all the Zimmerman apologists too, although I daresay I'll be ripped to shreds for saying so.

themaltesecat · 14/07/2013 20:53

Poor young man. His poor family.

Everything about this case is fucked up.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:54

Some people are too shy to shout, or are mute. In any case beating someone to a pulp is not a reasonable reaction to being followed, the sensible thing to do is to go somewhere safe/public and call the police. Which would have been convenient, since they were already on their way. If you escalate the situation, don't be surprised if you lose control of it.

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 20:57

littleSpork - by jove, I think you got it.
Zimmerman did not get away with murder, but he is guilty of racially profiling, following someone with a gun and ignoring the sound advice of control (for which he is a serial offender)

if that is the case against him, what is the punishment ? in your opinion

personally, I would take his gun off him, tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:58

Kitty I agree, it was very racist when Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker", perhaps these racist views are why he launched into a full scale assault of Zimmerman.

ps. I am being deliberately facetious, but accusing anybody who doesn't immediately side with a black individual as racist is a rather pathetic smear tactic.

curryeater · 14/07/2013 20:58

I am trying very hard not to remember the names of people writing the objectionable stuff on here because I will find it hard to be polite to you on other threads even if you are just posting in hard times for tea and sympathy. I don't want to be that sort of twat, but there you go

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 20:58

The racists are the ones making a big deal of this case. How many young black boys have been shot dead in the US since this incident happened? Do their lives not matter as much as Martin's? Clearly not because black on black killings don't sell newspapers, get TV ratings, web hits, or the President making statements.

harborhaze · 14/07/2013 20:59

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ThePowerof3 · 14/07/2013 21:00

Looking at the pictures of Zimmerman after the 'attack' he doesn't look beaten to a pulp to me! If I was following someone I thought looked suspicious and called it in to the police I would leave it at that and feel I had done my reasonable duty as neighbourhood watch, I just don't see how anyone could feel threatened enough in broad daylight, out on the street with the police on the way to shoot someone, no one is going to convince me otherwise

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 21:01

Hear hear curryeater. I've noted with utter disgust the apologists - it's vile.

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:02

He was pinned to the ground and being punched in the face! How can you not feel threatened by that?

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:03

Curryeater and xkittyx, you are completely out of order. "Apologists"? Apologists for what?

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 21:05

thepowerof3,
noone will convince you ? not even facts ?

check out the images of the back of zimmermans head. covered in blood.

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 21:06

Tabitha, apologists for murder. And a complete lack of compassion.

Kiriwawa · 14/07/2013 21:06

Where's the evidence of Zimmerman being punched in the face, Tabitha? His face looks unmarked. There was no abrasion on Martin's hands afaik.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 21:08

Oh dear, now the viewpoint that Martin didn't attack Zimmerman at all (one of the few aspects for which there is reliable evidence) is gaining traction on here. This is just getting silly. No doubt somebody will label me as "objectionable" for highlighting this.

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 21:09

If he had shared the same race as Trayvon Martin (in whichever variation) this case would already have been filed as a bitterly sad and regrettable case of self defence

would he fuck, hed have been locked up the same day.

Did you read about the woman who fired warning shots into the air and was jailed for 20 years? she was black of course.

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