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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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Ashoething · 14/07/2013 20:23

I really wouldnt cite wiki as a reliable source of information.

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 20:24

This is dreadful. A young boy is dead, with no sanction for his killer, and his name is now being smeared???

cosydressinggown · 14/07/2013 20:24

I'm pretty disgusted and upset about the whole thing. Mind you, I shouldn't be surprised at this from a country that has an unbelievable sickening, arrogant attitude towards guns. Poor little kid, and his poor family. Whether he hit Zimmerman or not, Zimmerman fucking STALKED him through the streets, because he was black and wearing a hooded top. If he had done as he was told and not followed him then this would not have happened. Perhaps if someone came following after me I'd punch them too. Zimmerman shot him at point blank range in the chest - he didn't attempt a warning shot or a leg - he is a free murderer and it sickens me.

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 20:25

OldMac my DS is 16, he is 6ft3 and a rugby player. He weighs just under 11stone which is less than 158lbs.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:25

Have to say Martin doesn't look 200lbs in the better picture of him from a week before he died, 160lbs sounds more likely. At nearly 6ft though he would certainly have the capacity to appear intimidating.

passmetheprozac · 14/07/2013 20:26

I am not sure if I am right in this but (with trepidation) I will put it out there.

Is this a case that should have been subject to a media blackout?. Everything (and I mean everything) recorded, as in the court proceeding, evidence, everything on a black out until the verdict. Nothing reported but accountable until after the verdict.

I understand that there is so much emotion and rightly so, about this case.

I do not believe that justice was served, I believe that Zimmerman needs to answer for what he did.

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 20:27

So what if he had the capacity to "appear intimidating"? God, so do a lot of people depending on the eye of the beholder but it doesn't mean they deserve to be shot!

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 20:28

Zimmerman had a violence as well, against police and women iirc.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:28

He did answer for what he did in court. His answers led to him being acquitted. Not every tragic sequence of events needs to end in a prosecution.

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:30

My son is the same height as Trayvon and weighs 5lb less than him.

He's slim and not at all physically 'intimidating'

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 20:30

This one should have. Zimmerman got to murder someone with impunity thanks to living on a fundamentally racist society with an utterly fucked-up relationship with firearms.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:31

littlemisswise yes I believe that is also true. I wouldn't really want to be Zimmermans friend either tbh. But that doesn't mean he needs to be locked up. Both of these characters had dubious histories, as is often the case in these sort of incidents.

Alisvolatpropiis · 14/07/2013 20:31

Ashoething

Wikipedia heavily monitors it's pages which contain information people are likely to maliciously tamper with actually.

So isn't a bad source of information outright.

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 20:32

ashoething
I think that zimmerman was a wannabe hard man. a sherriff. he had a downer on black guys. He saw someone acting suspicious and he wanted someone to bully. he had a gun.
so he called it in and was advised to leave it, but he didnt.
So he confronted the lad, and he had picked on the wrong bloke.

A few seconds later he was on his back getting his head bashed on the ground. He panicked, lost the plot and went for his gun. pointed it up and bang.

So whatever crimes you can pick out of that, go ahead.
Dickhead in charge of an ego ?
Wilfully looking for a confrontation ?
Entrapment, looking for a fight so he could bully someone ?
Assault ?

He has probably fantisised all his life about being Clint Eastwood and saying go on punk, make my day'

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:34

Just in case anyone missed it, my source of info regarding Trayvons height and weight came from his autopsy report not wikipedia.

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 20:34

"Perhaps if someone came following after me I'd punch them too."

Really? This is reasonable behaviour?

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 20:36

Tabitha, more fucking reasonable than shooting them dead.

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:36

OldMacEIEIO again, where are you getting your info that Trayvon was 6ft 3 and 200lb?

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:36

Tabitha, you'd feel pretty bad too if they were just returning the purse you dropped.

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 20:37

Shooting them dead when they are straddling you on the ground and punching you in the face? How would you react to that happening to you?

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 20:37

But the crime hee was charged with was murder snd a jury of his peers aqquitted him based on the evidence presented to them. Just because you dont agree withe verdict doesnt mean that it was the wrong verdict as pertained in a court of law.

edam · 14/07/2013 20:40

He was charged with manslaughter as well as murder. I believe there were three charges - two different degrees of murder and manslaughter (according to the Beeb).

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:40

Shooting them dead when they are straddling you on the ground and punching you in the face?

According to the killer, yet Trayvon had no evidence of punching zimmerman on his hands, no bruising, no blood traces?

curryeater · 14/07/2013 20:42

I am really appalled by the apologias for the verdict on this thread. There is a tone of "calm down dear" complacency that reminds me of the Tories who defended apartheid in the 80s (telling me that I was too young to have any sense and would agree with them when I was older); a vile morally bankrupt pragmatism that interprets the status quo with the very smallest and meanest and most minimal sense of our responsibilities to each other, to society, to understanding how we all fit together, how we affect each other.

"I'm asking if "there is no point in talking to white people" is a racist statement."
No. It is absolutely basic and clear to any reasonable people with any political or ethical nous whatsover that terms like "racist" and "sexist" apply asymmetrically, in a way that reflects that absolute asymmetry in power relations between races, on the one hand, and sexes, on the other. Anyone who thinks you can compare a white person making a generalisation on how they expect to be treated by black people, with a black person generalising on how they expect to be treated by white people, is an idiot. Or worse. It blows my mind that any adult on a board like this doesn't know that, or know why, or pretends not to.

xkittyx · 14/07/2013 20:42

Not to mention that Zimmerman started the whole situation in the first place.
Pity he wasn't a woman firing a warning shot at her abusive partner. Then he'd have got a nice long jail sentence.

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