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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 21:10

xkittyx ,
apologist for murder. never.
lack of compassion ? well, you've got me there

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:11

Read the medical examiners report Kiriwawa.

There was no murder, xkittyx. Even the prosecution agree with that.

Seriously, all the people complaining about the verdict are showing themselves to be completely ignorant, either wilfully so or otherwise. Stop listening to the story that the media are trying to tell and read the facts of the case.

creighton · 14/07/2013 21:12

the facts of the case are that a young man was murdered and no one is being held to account for it because the young man was black.

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 21:13

Zimmerman didn't look beaten to a pulp to me either. I have seen many a person beaten to a pulp (I was a Maxillofacial facial nurse), they have needed extensive facial surgery, and in many cases a week or two in hospital prior to the surgery awaiting the swelling going down before they could even have the surgery. They were not treated at the roadside and let go by paramedics, and the beater would have had marks on their hands!

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:15

No, there was no murder. Even the prosecution team have conceded this to be the case. Race has nothing to do with it.

He wasn't beaten to a pulp. He was punched several times and killed Martin to prevent being beaten to a pulp, or worse. Should he have allowed Martin to beat him to a pulp?

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 21:16

He wasn't beaten to a pulp because he defended himself. He was in the process of being beaten to a pulp at the time he fired his gun.

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 21:17

littlemisswise,
check the images of the back of zimmermans head, then get back to us

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 21:22

I have OldMac. He had a couple of small cuts that were bleeding down his head which had not been cleaned. The head is particularly vascular so you would expect to see a lot of bleeding from a small cut. Once the cuts are cleaned they are really quite small, they didn't even require a hospital visit for suturing , infact I think he had 2 butterfly stitches!

Kiriwawa · 14/07/2013 21:23

He had a slightly bloody nose Tabitha. No bones broken and a few lacerations to the back of his head.

If this massive fight to near death had occurred where Zimmerman was fearing for his life then a) Martin would have injuries and/or b) there would be evidence that he'd inflicted injuries where the victim would have felt his life was at risk. I don't know what happened but Zimmerman's story is a crock of shit

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:23

How beaten up do you think he should have got before he was justified in shooting?

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 21:25

They were not treated at the roadside and let go by paramedics, and the beater would have had marks on their hands!

Yep and Trayvon had no marks on his hands bar a tiny scrape that was old.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 21:25

Maybe he should have just written an indignant letter to the daily mail about it.

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 21:26

He would never have been justified in shooting IMO, Tabitha, not unless he had a a gun placed against his chest and someone was threatening to shoot him.

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:27

littlemisswise you are talking utter rubbish.

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 21:29

What, because I don't think someone should shoot a teenager for no reason? Really?

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:31

No, because you don't think someone is justified shooting in self defence when they are pinned to the ground and being assaulted.

Martin's age has nothing to do with anything btw.

MrsDeVere · 14/07/2013 21:32

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TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:33

A policeman would be perfectly justified in shooting an attacker in the same situation Zimmerman was in.

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 21:35

this wasnt the police. it was an armed knob
who did not have the forethought to ring a Maxillofacial facial nurse to determine whether his head being bashed against the ground required butterfly stitches or a head transplant

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 21:38

What, because I don't think someone should shoot a teenager for no reason? Really?

This is almost comical, the debate starts to make a bit of progress, and then somebody goes back to square one again. He was not shot for "no reason". This is another fact that nobody with any credibility connected to the case disputes.

Kiriwawa · 14/07/2013 21:39

Zimmerman could not reasonably believe he was in mortal danger - after all, he knew he had a gun and Trayvon, if he did inflict any wounds at all, inflicted minor ones (if you grab someone's head up and smash it on the floor then there is forensic evidence).

The issue here is that US law is designed to protect the vigilante. It's not really been changed since Wild West days and it's antediluvian.

When I lived in LA, I came home one day and thought I heard someone in my apartment. I went to see my landlord and he said 'one moment' and came back with his gun. When I acted slightly freaked out by it, he said (quite happily) 'Oh don't worry, if there's someone on your property, I can legally shoot them'.

It didn't make me feel any better.

MrsDeVere · 14/07/2013 21:41

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TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 21:42

They can shoot people who are giving them a smack if they are prone on the ground with no other means of defending themselves .

Alisvolatpropiis · 14/07/2013 21:44

Er no they wouldn't be Tabitha .

If the police shot everybody they thought might be violent there would be no people in cells and a lot more people in morgues.

As it is they have to believe the person is armed and about to shoot them. MrsDeVere has already explained this.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 21:44

There is forensic evidence for the attack, I can't believe people are denying it.

By the end of the thread people will be claiming Martin was handing out presents to orphans that he could magically pull out of his backside and giving lifesaving CPR to an old lady when Zimmerman came up behind him, bit Martins knob off and slowly tortured him to death over a period of 48 hours.