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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 19:42

yes, its a bit of a debate in the US. the charges were downgraded, then denied then it all came out.

no reason to get shot though, obv.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 19:43

Spork you've posted that link multiple times but it doesn't offer any evidence to back up what you're saying it merely claims the photo was 9 months old. Googling doesn't offer any reliable source to the age of that photo, there's something about the family attorney claiming he is 16 in that picture, although that isn't proof. In any case, it makes him look a lot younger, shorter and baby-faced than he actually was, so is a bizarre choice of photo if the desired effect was to present a realistic image.

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 19:49

Charges for what?

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 19:53

Staffie, you are probably right, but it doesn't matter.
I dont care how baby faced they look, a 17 year old male, coming at you at full speed in kill-mode is blooming terrifying.
I have no idea if he terrified the zimmerman guy or not, but I wouldn't rule it out because ' he was a kid out buying sweets'.

btw, both men were the same weight at the time - 200 pounds

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 19:54

There were no charges, all was based on a bag search at school and the searchers interpretation of their contents.

He had no criminal record.

emuloc · 14/07/2013 19:57

Still waiting to hear what charges Trayvon had against him.

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 19:59

amber leaf
'he was caught with stuff that should have gotten him arrested'

thats a direct quote from the officials concerned.

emuloc · 14/07/2013 20:01

Still waiting.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:04

The point being made is that he had committed offences that fit the criteria for prosecution, but was not prosecuted for whatever reason. Whether he had an actual criminal record in the legal sense is arguing semantics and rather tedious.

Kiriwawa · 14/07/2013 20:04

'a 17 year old male, coming at you at full speed in kill-mode is blooming terrifying'

Do you have any evidence for that one? Or is that your interpretation?

And I'm sorry for buying that Trayvon had convictions, I was trying to be unbiased. Interesting how so many people are keen to make those 'real' but gloss over Zimmerman's very real convictions for violence and assault.

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 20:04

So there were no charges!Hmm

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:05

Trayvon Martin was not 200lbs.

Trayvon weighed 158lb.

WestieMamma · 14/07/2013 20:08

The point being made is that he had committed offences that fit the criteria for prosecution, but was not prosecuted for whatever reason. Whether he had an actual criminal record in the legal sense is arguing semantics and rather tedious.

Seriously? I've never heard of someone's right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law described as 'semantics and rather tedious' before. I find that view point rather frightening.

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:11

No charges.

No convictions.

No criminal record.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:12

And I find it rather odd that you can never accept that somebody has done something that implies bad character unless somebody takes them to court and wins the case. I guess we should stop moaning about the toilet seat being left up unless we create a court case to prove it happened and win.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:13

Jimmy Saville must be innocent too...

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:14

The point being made is that he had committed offences that fit the criteria for prosecution, but was not prosecuted for whatever reason. Whether he had an actual criminal record in the legal sense is arguing semantics and rather tedious

He hadn't commited offence, where was that proven in court?

He had no criminal record so stop trying to justify his murder by slurring his name.

Shall we talk instead about zimmermans criminal record?

emuloc · 14/07/2013 20:15

Now who is being obtuse.

emuloc · 14/07/2013 20:16

The last post was for Staffie99

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 20:16

158 pounds ? eh ?

he was a six foot three american football player.

amberleaf - you have been looking at wikipedia havn't you

zimmerman was a five foot nine porker wannabe sherriff.

LittleSporksBigSpork · 14/07/2013 20:17

I do keep posting it because people keep calling him a thug and most of the thug images that have been posted on the internet aren't him. Some don't even look a thing like him and were purposefully used to smear a dead 17 year old.

Yes, he was 16 in that first photo - because it's 6 month before he was shot. His birthday's the 5th of February and he was shot on 26th. A 6 month old photo would be when he was 16. The last two photos on that site are him at 17 - days before he was shot. Compare the two picture, he doesn't look that different. I could show you the pictures of him dead lying on the ground like MSNBC and Gawker did so you can compare his size if needed.

OldMac - You don't seem very concerned by how scared Trayvon was about having a man following him with a gun in police-wanna-be mode (in a society where even the most beloved and wealthy black men like LeVar Burton are afraid of being shot by police and police brutality has been come a national issue with the few Black judges creating 'how to deal with police' seminars and videos for the community).

Zimmerman admits to being the aggressor, he admitted as part of his defence that he racially profiled him and his defense was that he was justified doing so and apparently 6 women agreed with him. The prosecution was useless, didn't prep it's witnesses well, and basically handed it over. The system is designed to get what it wants.

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 20:18

Noone is arguing that george zimmerman is entirely innocent though?

LittleSporksBigSpork · 14/07/2013 20:21

OldMac - he played football, you don't need to be 6' 3" to do that. Read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin his weight and height as determined by the coroner as is Zimmerman size when he was arrested.

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 20:22

I'm not slurring his name, just pointing out what somebody else was getting at.

Trayvon Martin did have a history of drug use, violence and being caught with artifacts that make it likely he was involved in burglaries. These facts are not in dispute by anybody connected with the case. Personally I judge people by their actions, not what their police file says. I wouldn't mingle with rapists and the like just because nobody successfully prosecuted them, but if legal documents are the measure of a person in your eyes, go for it (incidentally, Zimmermans legal documents say he is not guilty of murder, cognitive dissonance for you to deal with).

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 20:22

amberleaf - you have been looking at wikipedia havn't you

Nope

Ive been reading Trayvons autopsy report, will that do?

He was 5ft 11inches and weighed 158lbs. [11stone 2lb]

Where are you getting your 'info' from?