Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

Ali Thank you for the link.

No worries glad you both think it will be useful!

Aside from the race aspect the major issue has to be surrounding the right to bear arms surely? If Zimmerman wasn't armed an innocent boy would still be alive

I got a lovely link PMed to me, happy to share it if anyone is interested.

Lots of great Christmas ideas now! DH will be just as happy, sick of going into 'mainstream' stores and never seeing a black/Asian/Mixed face on a toy or book. Surely black people and Asian people are mainstream enough to warrant a book and doll that isn't pink faced! Think DC will get a few treats soon :)

/Rant PM me you would like the great link that I was sent.

Anyway, back to thread point...

Exactly Power! If this case had Zimmerman charged with anything, then people would want to know why such a violent man was allowed to strut around with a gun.

Much easier to let him off on self defence but at the same time have America argue that while yes, well, in their opinion he's a murderer, he had the right to defend himself....

the point made earlier about the white british tourists murdered by the black teenager or the white man killed by the Hispanic thugs is that when something happens to white people it is investigated immediately and investigated thoroughly. when something happens to black people, the police may, or may not, investigate depending on whether they can be bothered or not.

That scares me so much, how has anyone got the right to rob someone of their life and their parents of a child I'm just so glad we don't have similar gun law in UK

"Zimmerman used specifically black racial slurs in referring to him in the phone call. He made it very clear in his phone call that Trayvon's race was why he felt he needed to be followed. "

Where is this coming from?
I thought the only time he mentioned race was when questioned, although this was edited out of the initial recordings played by some media outlets to support the polemic they were going with at the time.
And what slurs were used?

Also if he did decide to kill Trayvon but wasn't in possession of a gun he would of had to beat him to death to kill him something which a court would struggle to brush aside on a self defence excuse

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Sorry ignore last post.

Also if he did decide to kill Trayvon but wasn't in possession of a gun he would of had to beat him to death to kill him something which a court would struggle to brush aside on a self defence excuse

Exactly. I feel like it's easier for the American government in these cases to allow racists to walk free rather than be challenged on their gun laws.

IMHO, this case is multi layered, with the issues being racism and guns.

"Zimmerman used specifically black racial slurs in referring to him in the phone call. He made it very clear in his phone call that Trayvon's race was why he felt he needed to be followed."

Either you're very ignorant and foolish enough to take what the main stream media says at face value, or you have an agenda to mis-represent the evidence (which has been the very foundation of Trayvon Martin's defence) for nefarious purposes.

For anyone who is wondering, the mainstream media played the following excerpt from the call countless times:

"He looks black"

Editing out the immediately preceding question from the operator:

"What does he look like, white, hispanic, black?" (I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it)

There was also an inaudible muttering by Zimmerman generally accepted to be "fucking punks", but a certain section of agenda pushing morons decided to claim this was "fucking coons". This is what the rather misinformed poster quoted is referring to.

Regardless of skin colour a young man has lost his life & no-one is being held accountable-he had a drink & some skittles ffs, the story has made me so very sad

OldMacEIEIO

Why did you link that story? how did that help your argument?

All that proves is how differently suspects are treated when they are black and their victim is white. instant justice.

The four suspects ? 19-year-old Jekari Oshay Strozier and 18-year-olds Antonio Shantwan Pass, Johnathan Donald Anthony and Kemonta Bond, all from Mableton ? have been held without bond since last week at the Cobb County jail on charges of felony murder, aggravated assault and violating the Georgia Street Gang Act

As much as I believe this judgement flies in the face of natural justice, I think Ecclesvet's 12:11 post is a very good summary of the assumed reasons for Zimmerman's acquittal. After reading that, I could understand why he was acquitted though it sets my teeth on edge.

It would be nice to think Zimmerman will spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder and pissing his pants at the sound of a pin dropping. Unfortunately the murderers of Emmett Till, a far more unequivocal and premeditated case than this one, never got their just deserts and died in their beds little old men.

I am white, I have a gold tooth, and I do understand creightons anger/attitude.
As a by the by, Tidy, when you tell creightons to stop speaking as she/he does as people will not listen,who are you representing? Which "people"? Because it isn't me for one

This thread is embarassing... The coverage of the whole case has been ridiculous. So many people think they know more than the judge and jury that have all the evidence and deliberated over it.

Tabitha

Juries have been known to make the wrong decision despite having all the evidence in front of them. As have judges. All human,all fallible.

I can see why the jury would conclude that the case hadn't been made for murder, although I disagree with it. But does anyone know why he wasn't convicted of manslaughter?

But what other possible verdict could there be in this case? It was obvious from day one that he would be found not guilty. The case only went to court because of pressure from the media who misrepresented what happened.

Manslaughter Tabitha would be the possible verdict from this case.

I'm surprised you even have to ask.

Unfortunately in thousands of years of civilisation it seems we still haven't grown past the point of most people making their mind up in the first half second they hear about something, then rationalising away all the detailed evidence that comes out later.

Despite the fact that an initially correct call by the police was overridden, an international media campaign was used to smear and misrepresent Zimmerman's character and even his ethnicity, whilst all of Martins failings were surpressed, a highly skilled and experienced police chief was removed to ensure charges were brought following massive political pressure to placate uninformed mobs in certain parts of the community, the most powerful man in the world claiming Trayvon as the son he never had, irregularities in the trial and more, they still couldn't make it stick in court. And yet people are still claiming this as evidence that the system didn't convict Zimmerman because the dead teenager was black, and that there is no question of his guilt.

Why would manslaughter be a possible verdict?

"Even for manslaughter, the jury had to find that George Zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin. but was told that ?a killing that is excusable or was committed by the use of justifiable deadly force is lawful.? The jury instruction on deadly force states in part: ?A person is justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.? "

That quote is from this article by liberal law professor Jonathan Turley