To think you should be able to sue your mum if you weren't breastfed

[Richocet]

and have suffered health consequences that could have been prevented by breastfeeding?

Attend to my children? Yes because I've just left them to their own devices whilst I spend my time arguing with strangers on the Internet

I couldn't give a flying fuck basking. This is AIBU!

Do you honestly think that if you continue this oneupmanship style of parenting, that could be classed as "doing ones best"? And that when your child gets to 21 and s/he are reflecting on their childhood and the opportunities you gave them, he/she will actually care how you fed them?

I know not how my mother fed me. And I don't actually give a flying fuck. It has made no difference to me.

The research you mention is flawed and has been reviewed since.There are several studies that have found more babies have died of SIDs happen to have been FF than BF. However, when these studies were analysed further there was no causal effect. In other words,the method of feeding was not the definitive cause of the death when there were controls made for other known causal factors.

I think if you are going to share research such as this you should take the time to see it's correct and validated otherwise you are going to end up looking poorly educated and ill-informed. I am off now as I have a RL.

You don't know it didn't though Ariel

Trollop, I care not of the details, just the fact that less bf die of SIDS. If less babies died because their mother slept upside down hung from the ceiling, I'd probably do that too.

How I wish there was a raised middle finger emoticon. How about it, MNHQ?

I'm off now as well.

You really are quite absurd.

Richocet if you don't care about the facts, what's the point of the "debate"? Without supporting data you are simply opinionated.

I think this thread has gone way too far now!! For the poor families that have had a child with sids im sure do not want to be reading some of these heartless comments. Babies die of sids through no fault of anyone else it just happens and is almost always unexplained. The question that started this thread was silly ebough but to start bleating on about sids is just plain wrong, unthoughtful and heartless. I hope no one has been affected by reading your sids jargon. I for one will not comment no further on this thread and i hope no-one else does either!

Can I sue my mum for using disposable nappies, and therefore contributing to landfill sites and the destruction they are creating, meaning that my own children may grow up in a world seriously affected by climate change?

Can I sue my mum for not BF me, but BF one of my siblings for 3 years, and that means that he's now super-clever, and I am a dunce?

Can I sue my mum for never having learnt to drive, thus restricting where we could go on a day out, which in turn affected my knowledge of the world?

(Please do not take too seriously - I am amazed by this thread, and would just like some other pointless questions to be answered.)

But that's the point Richocet - The devil is in the detail. If you are going to quote 'facts'you should make sure they are exactly that.

The link between BF and SIDs is a correlation not a cause. I shall explain as I think you are struggling to understand: Imagine a 70 mile journey in a red formula one car and the same journey in a blue clapped out old banger . The journey in the formula one car takes you 40 minutes, the journey in the old banger takes you 1 hour and 10 minutes. So would you conclude that if you drive a red car you would get there quicker than in a blue car? No because the colour is not the cause. The car itself is.

Oh dear ricochet you seem to be confusing correlation with causation. Seems there's not enough breastmilk in the world to make you intelligent. :(

alpine.

I was exclusively BF and I have terrible eczema.

I will get right on suing my mum for not feeding me the 'right' breast milk.

Trollop - we don't know what causes SIDS as you say. We just know about correlations/associations, between smoking in pregnancy, prone sleeping, sleeping in own bedroom before 6 months, not breastfeeding etc.

Quite rightly parents are informed of these things so they can reduce the risks for their babies.

But it's only the association between lack of breastfeeding and increased rates of SIDS that people don't wish to be openly talked about.

Why would that be?

Jeeze - some of the responses on this thread following my mention of the link between bf and SIDS don't show adults in a very good light.

Actually, I think you will find it does not show you in a very good light Shagmundfreud.
It makes you sound like a nasty idiot with no emotional intelligence.

AlpinePony - on the basis of the argument you're using HP's shouldn't be advising mothers not to smoke in pregnancy, put their baby to sleep face down, or take care that blankets can't go over their baby's face at night. Because like with bf there is no proven causal relationship between these behaviours and higher rates of SIDS. Just an association.

Shame on you rubbishing the advice given on breastfeeding by FSIDS on the grounds that you think mothers' right not to feel guilty about their choices trumps the right for the free dissemination of information that supports parents in keeping their babies safe. Disgraceful.

FSIDS only changed their advice on breastfeeding relatively recently (a couple of years back) - they were waiting until they felt the evidence was solid enough to justify including it in the the information they make available to parents. But here you are - rubbishing the advice of those organisations with the most knowledge of this issue. As I said - shame on you.

Gin - I really don't give a shit.

I feel very sorry for women who have struggled with bf and had a horrible time of it. I have been there myself. I support a mums right to choose how she feeds her baby based on what she can cope with and what she thinks is best for her and her baby.

But I'm not going to stand by on a discussion thread like this and say nothing while some people with a vested emotional interest in trivialising the benefits of breastfeeding rubbish the accepted evidence from respectable organisations because it simply doesn't suit them to engage with the facts as an adult.

"or take care that blankets can't go over their baby's face at night"

I think that's smothering rather than SIDS.

No - it's not.

Babies who died from cot death were more likely to be found with a blanket over their face. This doesn't meant they suffocated. Death by suffocation is different from SIDS, where no direct explanation can be found for the death.

Anyway, perhaps Alpine Pony and the frothers on this thread can take themselves over to the thread about new recommendations on caffeine intake during pregnancy, and shout at everyone for making those of us who went through pregnancy afloat on a sea of lattes feel guilty. Also perhaps cast doubt on the reliability of the research into caffeine intake and late stillbirth on the basis that they drank loads of coffee and their baby was just ^fine.

who is trivialising the benefits of breastfeeding?

baskingseals - clock the responses on this thread from Alpine Pony stating that it's basically a non-issue (whether children are bf or not, not the OP's original suggestion that children sue mothers for not bf, which is clearly bloody crackers).

Comparing bf with using disposable nappies, not learning to drive etc etc.

"You can't handle the truth" etcetc.

Bf is better for babies health, short and long term. Full stop. But some people can't or won't. Majority of those ff babies are fine. Science proves a link, people stick head in sand and fingers in ears. It may be inconvenient, or not what you want to hear, but breast is best for baby.

It is of no consequence to you how anyone else feeds their baby. Making the statements you have just makes you look a bit thick.

Tbh it doesn't really matter what I feed my children. Being genetically superior to your offspring, they'll always be better. Hth.

Science proves a few links with data that in the great scheme of things shows slight advantages in bfing. There are soooo many other studies that show far more of an impact on health and education from other foods and lifestyle choices so lets keep things in perspective please.

These studies into bf/ff get challenged as new studies get published all the time.It wasn't so long ago ffing got blamed for excema there have since been studies that have linked excema to bfing.I find it ironic that given the years formula has been going and the amount of desperate searching/money spending the pro bfing lobby do in the hope they'll find cast iron direct links that show formula to be catastrophic to health nothing is ever found.

I don't buy the long term thing at all. Common sense tells us if you were bf for 6 months and spend a life eating pies sitting on the sofa you'll have crap health end of.6 months of bm will do diddly squat.By contrast a life time of balanced eating and exercise after 6 months of ffing will give you good health unless genetics kick in.

Bfeeding although better in the great scheme of things is really a tiny speck on the list of things to worry about in motherhood.Many(often those that feel inadequate in other areas of motherhood) just can't except this so like to over inflate it,stat twist,scaremonger and quite frankly the maj of British mothers(both bfing and ffing) are bored to tears with it which is why and when sticking one's fingers in one's ears is resorted to.