Honest question regarding children and public transport

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Is it really so wrong to expect a child to give up their seat on a packed bus or train? Conversely just because you have a ton of shopping and the bus is packed, should you expect someone to give up their seat for your child?

And by child I mean ages eight and up.

I have to admit I get fairly hacked off when a bus is packed and a parent has let their three kids all sit down when there are elderly people without a seat.

Also my brother is legally blind and parents seem to be happy to let him stand and cling onto a pole or hang by a strap while their children hang all over his guide dog.

My children must always give up their seats for any standing adult and any standing child clearly younger than them. I will always have already given up my seat first before them though.

And if when I ask them to stand up they complain about it, then we all get off the bus/tram and they have to walk!

I give up my seat for older people, children of any age and anyone else who looks like they might want it for any reason at all.

It's really tricky though for small children to stand up on buses.

8yos are NOT more likely to get hurt - they are LESS likely to get hurt! Of course pre-schoolers are more vulnerable, but past the age of 6 they are way less likely to sustain an injury than me, let alone someone who is frail and elderly.

Seats should be offered to the more vulnerable - disabled, elderly, pregnant, young children, etc. There's no way an 8 year old should give up their seat for a healthy adult - why?

Seats:-
First come first served.
Then:-
Toddlers on mums knees if busy,
Healthy adult or Children of secondary age and near adult hight to stand for elderly people.

Having traveled with a small child on trains and the tube, I've found a lot of the grab handles are far too high for DCs.

Main problem is best hand holds for younger DCs are invariably vertical poles in the doorways.

Some adults are less than considerate about understanding why a short DC needs to stay standing there.

If they move down the train they cannot reach the ceiling grab handles.

They are not trying to get in your way