to think that this way of labelling toilets in a pub is just wrong

[islandbaby]

went to a new pub the other day. Headed off to the toilets to be confronted with one door saying "Men" and the other saying "Not Men"

i mean... you're either a man or you're defined by not being one.

Meant to remark on it to the chap behind the bar but decided I'd probably had one too many girly shandies.

Ugh, HATE 'loo'. Toilet for me all the way or, if you must, bathroom (but only if the room in question actually has a bath in it).

I can't be doing with silly signs, unless they're genuinely witty, which they very rarely are.

I once had my poor ex going off to find the toilets at Cafe Rouge and coming back, shamefaced, to ask whether he should go into 'Mesdames' or Messieurs' . . .

Nope. Offensive. Sorry.

I think it's shit. It's not even witty, let alone funny. And I find pretty much anything funny, so it's not a sense of humour failure. YANBU.

I work in a vairy naice pub and we have 'humorous' toilet labels (har de har) featuring, for the ladies, a little girl with her arse out, peeing into a pot. It's ceramic too, so I think It's supposed to be 'arty' in a posh way. I personally think It's a bit off. Plus a lot of the men don't 'get' it and end up using the Ladies (mens' in seperate part of bar, featuring naice ceramic art of small y child pissing up wall)

That should be boy, not y.

I think it's bad - like men are 'normal' and women are something 'other'. Perhaps, if it was actually something amusing instead of just rubbish I could ignore that. But it isn't even funny.

I think it's a rubbish sign too.
I nearly went into the wrong loo today because I forgot that only men wear trousers, so the sign showing a person wearing trousers couldn't possibly for women.
Just label them men and women ffs.

OP you are right.

By using the terms 'men' and 'not men' they are necessarily defining people in terms of being men (authority) and not men (Foucauldian other).

The Black Sheep Brewery has "Ewes" and "Tups". I took a group of international students there once, much confusion occurred.

But no, the example in the OP isn't funny.

I cant believe how many people are giving loo signs head space!

OK so it isnt particularly funny but it isnt offensive either, just a wee bit sad that the landlord clearly is an idiot!

But irish pub loo signs get me every fecking time! I dont care if they say "pimps" and "whores" just say it in a language i understand!

Btw I mean Irish themed pubs in England, not pubs in Ireland!

Is it a pub where they might have some transsexual customers? I think pre-op TS can't officially be 'women' but often prefer to use female toilets. So 'Not men' is a label that would include them.

Definitely absolutely stupid and unfunny.

What about "bog"?

'Gary' is far superior to either loo or toilet.

In some ways you could say it's quite honest as most children go in the women's so the loos really are for "men" and "not men".

It doesn't offend me anyway.

Why do alternative toilet signs always turn out sexist, unfunny or plain indecipherable? Sigh. YANBU

It would get a smile from me too. FFS lighten up!

TBH I'm in the not bothered camp too

The 'Men' are welcome to their smelly piss holes, I'm glad not to be one in this instance

It makes me think whoever decided to put them up was a bit of a tosser. I bet he never thought about getting signs which said 'Women' and 'Not Women'.

'Humorous' loo signs very rarely are in any way funny IMO.

Yep, establishment would never say Women and Not Women, so actually this would piss me off.