to wonder how people can not believe in Evolution .......

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After a discussion at work which actually started about a childs' dress (day nursery) leading onto the duggars and then religion, it came clear to me that several of my work colleagues do not believe in evolution and not only that but also dinosaurs not existing

Now i can understand the more religious people not believing as Evolution and adam and eve clash, but for those who were not religious how can you not believe in Evolution. Its proven.

I mean really how can people not believe in Evolution or dinosaurs.

I quote one of my work colleagues 'well there's lots of dinosaur toys so they must have been real' .... WTAF?

Please tell MN that you believe in Evolution, and dinosaurs ......

i think people are generally quite thick these days

I was at the Natural History museum today, and unless they were very odd shaped gigantic horses and cows.. there were definately dinosaurs..

How do non-religious people who don't believe in evolution think we came to be here then?

Are there non religious people who don't believe in evolution

we're teaching 'dinosaurs' after the holiday (ie tomorrow) and I can see quite a few clashes happening with the kiddies... I have a Jehovah's Witness in my class too, so that should be interesting.

in what way interesting juniper904?

It's amazing what people can believe. People can even hold contradictory views simultaneously. It's an interesting area of sociological research!
My mum's colleague was a fundamental christian who believed in creation. That might seem fine but she was also a biochemist/cytologist for the NHS. She believed the science of biochemistry but at the same time wouldn't accept what science has to say on evolution.

Mad, isn't it? Like not believing in gravity or, I don't know, hedgehogs, or something. It boggles my mind when I meet people like this. It just happens, it's not a matter of faith ffs!

was open briefly locally - to the amusement of some and bewilderment of most.

The film was recorded secretly inside (I think there is more than one part!) - just cast your eyes over some of the ludicrous claims and pseudo-science.

It's what happens when you start off with a conclusion and then try to make the evidence fit it

My dad is a born again christian and i am ALWAYS having the same discussion with him! He does not believe dinosaurs ever existed!!!

Evoloution has so much evidence on its side, and while i do believe in god/heaven or something along those lines i think evolution blows the Adam and Eve story out the water!

Unfortunately, creationists have made every effort to put evolution in the same foot as religion and often succeed.
It is easier to believe that the sun revolves around the Earth than the other way around.
And for people to accept evolution they have to be aware of several different types of scientific evidence.
Plus having to deal with the disinformation campaigns by the devil creationists or intelligent design.
And there are more currents and versions of creationism than evolutionary theories...

I hope I'm not drawn again into this type of discussion because it is draining and I have been in a few already.

Squeakytoy, please let me know about the dinosaurs at the NHM. Have they got feathered dinosaurs yet?
The last time I went, I sent an e-mail complaining at how dated their exhibit was.
Geek alert!

The non religious people i hope didn't believe in it because they weren't sure on the ins and outs of it, i had to explain genetic traits and how we inherit things, to quite a few people.

One lady who was raised Christian, didn't think we evolved because she couldn't see it, as in a day to day basis. I went home and found research to show them the next day, and when i showed her the proof she said i should now research god to see if thats true. Well i think my point was that Evolution existed not god, she should be the one proving god to me.

directs the whole world to reddit/r/atheism

What the jeff does he think those skeletons in the NHM are apple?

This thread is only serving to remind me of the Friends episode where Phoebe doesn't believe in evolution, won't entertain it, and Ross is flabbergasted!
"How do you explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!"
Just me? Oh well I'll get my coat

Well, "evolution" is a series of explanation for many processes and events, and nobody beleives ALL of them, some scientists believe very few of them, but still believe that evolution happened, even if they can't explain how. I'm a scientist, and a christian, so am in a position to look with an open mind, and I studied this as a specialist subject at university. My conclusion is that microevolution almost certainly happens, an macroevolution almost certainly doesn't or happens very raraly, and that humans almost certainly have not evolved, in the text book sense, however, I am prepard to accept I could be wrong abpiut any of this.

This is the problem with this particular area of scientific investigation, so many people, (including, I'm guessing from her tone , the OP) refuse to accept they could be wrong. In that sense it is a unique area of science, and genuine enquirey is very much hampered

DoingHouseworkHonest i quoted that very line at work

I think Ross meant the panda's thumb

A collection of assays about evolution by the great and sadly departed Stephen J. Gould.

I was just thinking about that as well, DoingHousework!

I had a very similar discussion with a woman in work last week, we were talking about something quite banal and she said "can you believe some people believe we were once apes?" I stood there open mouthed, shocked into silence (a first for me ). She is a Christian but it still caught me off guard. We are catholics but its Evolution all the way here.

Asiatic, I'm curious, how do you conclude that humans have not evolved?

Blimey I have never even heard of anyone not believing that dinosaurs existed , fair enough with the evolution/creationism stuff, but that dinosaurs never even existed, erm wow.

It's NOT "proven" at all!!! It's a faith paradigm. I have seen the same facts used by BOTH sides to argue their case. So much is about interpretation of those facts.
Last year I was told by an astrophysicist visiting our school to give a talk, that the Big Bang is now old hat and NOW they believe that there was nothing, then suddenly there was everything, all occuring within a nanosecond. That would actually suggest the possibility of a creator, surely?
There are a LOT of problems with evolutionary theory to be fair, a lot of assumptions are made to fit the theory. It's really NOT as black and white as you make out OP. So YABVU because you are vastly over-simplifying what is essentially a very complex issue.

We were not once apes, of course.

We ARE apes. Do they know nothing?

I am a Christian but still believe in Evolution.

In a nutshell I think that the energy that created the 'big bang' was God

The creation story in the Bible cannot be an eye witness version so I don't think can be taken totally literally - who knows what God's version of a 'day' was back then anyway?

I still find it amazing though that whilst it was written millenia before today's scientific knowledge, in a vary basic world, the creation story still has it all happening in basically the right order - light, water & air, land, plants, fish & birds, animals, humans...

Agree anyone who doesn't believe in dinosaurs is !