to wonder how people can not believe in Evolution .......

[cookielove]

After a discussion at work which actually started about a childs' dress (day nursery) leading onto the duggars and then religion, it came clear to me that several of my work colleagues do not believe in evolution and not only that but also dinosaurs not existing

Now i can understand the more religious people not believing as Evolution and adam and eve clash, but for those who were not religious how can you not believe in Evolution. Its proven.

I mean really how can people not believe in Evolution or dinosaurs.

I quote one of my work colleagues 'well there's lots of dinosaur toys so they must have been real' .... WTAF?

Please tell MN that you believe in Evolution, and dinosaurs ......

no one thinks humans evolved from monkeys

no one said you were TSC

Ooh, I bet some people do catgirl - never underestimate the power of half-digested education.

:) true - there will be someone somwhere...........

Wheredidyoulastsee

I believe in natural selection, but not necessarily evolution, what good is half an eye for example. and i'm not sure if i believe in God either. God and evolution there seems to be a few holes in the arguments for both of them.

Actually, these days evolutionists can be quite sceptical about natural selection. There are a few other theories about how evolution occurred.

As for what good is half an eye, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye

Our eyes are not perfect. For once, we see the world upside down. Then, light has to go through lots of layers of cells to finally be detected.

In fact, eyes are not the same in all animals, and they have evolved several times, independently.

Of course, it could be that God had a huge imagination and created different types of eyes. Except when it comes to DNA, of course, where he showed remarkable lack of imagination.

'what good is half an eye'

Its a heck of a lot better than no eye at all. That is, the sort of half-eye produced by evolutio is. Read the wiki for starters.

Eyes are such an aid to survival they've evolved more than once. In octopuses they evolved the right way round - mammalian eyes are inside-out, rather a good example of evolution not design

cookielove

Here you are: A fully saddled Triceratops from the museum. Very useful mode of transport. In fact Jesus rode into Jerusalem on one. The whole donkey thing was a misprint.

Or the laryngeal nerve in the giraffe.

I don't know exactly what happened, we probably never will, and I can keep myself quite happy like that.

Bizarrely, a girl in one of my first year Biology modules refuse to think evolution was even a possibility. Fair enough, but why take a biology module where the main lecture course was The Origin of Life if you were just going to come out of every lecture and say 'Of course, the lecturer was wrong'? I wish I could have seen her exam paper.

Shame that Hannibal only took elephants, lifeisquiteabsurd, if he had taken those triceratops across the alps, things might have been different...

Once went to a dinner party, the host collected fossils and had some great ones on display. I was just about to make a smartarse comment about how daft born again Christians say fossils are planted to test the faith of believers, when a little alarm voice (God? ooh..er) stopped me from launching into it.

Instead I just gently raised it as an interesting observation , and the woman opposite me said that she believed that fossils were planted by satan to lead people astray...she worked in the pathlab at the local hospital examining tissues samples. Once my scorn was obvious she refused to discuss it further..

Catgirl I think the biggest problem I have with the theory that god left the dinosaur bones, is that god is pretend

Mother of Ex while in the Planetarium staring at models of sun and planets etc suddenly asks me if I believe in 'all this'? I wasn't absolutely sure what she meant, apparently she meant space. Honestly didn't know how to answer...

ohdobuckup, perhaps the woman sat opposite you was the same one who worked with my mum. I wonder!

I've just watched the video of the Duggars at the museum, and my goodness those automatons are scary!

I find it so depressing that people argue against evolutionary theory, when all they know about is bloody fossils and apes! Its so much more sophisticated than that, scientists can track back to find the dna of a virus infecting species millennia ago, and follow its path through different evolving species, for example, there is so much more to this than monkey talk. I would recommend the podcast Evolution 101 - cant remember the name of the presenter, but just a couple of rpisodes demonstrates the depth of evidence for evolution.
It really is worth following- fascinating!

If even the Catholic Church is officially ok with evolution then fuck knows why some people think that dinosaur fossils are the work of Satan.

Although possibly it's because they heard the soundbite 'what use is half an eye' and thought 'hmm good question' and based their entire opinion on that without a quick google to establish that this question has been easily answered for decades.

asiatic if you don't believe in evolution then how the hell do you think we all came to exist in the form we do now?
And what kind of scientist are you exactly? An ologist?

I don't know any Christians who don't believe in evolution. Not one, and I know hundreds.

I'm not usually overly picky about word choices, but when it comes to these either/or religious/science clashes I think it's really important.

Science is Rational, you weigh up evidence and you AGREE or DISAGREE with a theory

Religion/faith is Spiritual, you BELIEVE or DISBELIEVE in something

Neither is mutually exclusive, though I think science should stop trying to rationalise the irrational (not to undermine religion, love is irrational and most people consider love a valued even essential part of life) and bloody evangelical nutters extreamists should stop forcing God into the gaps scientific theory leaves. I get quite angry so called believers try to diminish God so much - and I shouldn't get angry I'm aiming to be a Quaker

Needless to say I have family members who will disbelieve most scientific theory - especially the theory of evolution as they are being homeschooled using crazy far right evangelical propaganda from America - coming to a free school near you soon.

A century on since Darwin and we've made huge strides in biology and genetics, mapped the human genome and compared it to that of apes and other animals, we've dug up fossils, dated rocks, dated the universe and none of this has has thrown doubt on the fact that we share a common ancestor with apes, and no one has yet found a rabbit fossil in a pre-Cambrian rock.

Doubters should throw in the towel and admit that maybe Darwin had a point.

'If even the Catholic Church is officially ok with evolution then fuck knows why some people think that dinosaur fossils are the work of Satan.'

Well... some of these people may also think the Catholic Church is the work of Satan.

My hubby had to teach a course on evolution a few years ago... there were a scary percentage of the class taking it that didn't believe. They would word their tests 'some scientists believe that...' before each answer because he would have to fail them If they refused to answer the exams. He hated it and managed to avoid that class after that. It is depressing how many of the scientists and doctors etc we know have these views.

That's a major revelation.
The good flyingspaghettimonster is married.

Do not use the lord's name in vain.

Well... some of these people may also think the Catholic Church is the work of Satan.
That was what my BIL thought.

Lueji LOL... I have used this as my online name so long I forget the original meaning... may his noodliness forgive me.

Ramen to all you Pastafarians.