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to be abit worried..

109 replies

ditsydoll · 09/02/2012 20:54

That a child my child has been playing with at nursey has herpes? She was born with it contracted from.the mother apparently. She had no sores that I could see but had something in her mouth and my child picked it up only later did I find out that the child had herpes and had been playing with my dc. Should I b worried?

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roundtable · 09/02/2012 21:48

Stranded how's the little one?

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ditsydoll · 09/02/2012 21:48

So if it was passed on at birth she would probably have the second one. I just wanted to know if it was something my dc could catch. I never meant to sound bitchy or rude. Just abit concerned as it is an STI. I was hoping someone could tell me if it could be passed through close contact or third party objects such as toys in mouths as this is what happened. I never posted to upset anyone I just wanted abit of information if anyone had any. I know its not the child's fault that she gas this and know she has a right to post with the other kids but just water information on how it spreads. Sorry to have caused such a debate.

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Kayano · 09/02/2012 21:49

Genital or oral?

StrandedBear · 09/02/2012 21:50

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Birdsgottafly · 09/02/2012 21:53

Op- if you want information, make your concerns known to the nursery, who will have infection control measures in place when needed.

Don't add to the chinese whispers that seem to be circulating.

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ditsydoll · 09/02/2012 21:53

TheHumanCatapult, thanks for info, doesn't seem as worrying. I had just heard herpes and panicked I think. I honestly havnt meant to come across how I have been perceived. I just wanted info to know if I she could contract it. I never meant to sound like I was judging or gossiping about anyone.

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roundtable · 09/02/2012 21:55

Well ditsy, I wouldn't worry about it, unless your dc have cuts in their mouths and even then I think you'd be very unlucky.

Maybe speak to the mother of the child about it if you're really worried. Unless you think it's a ridiculous rumour that is. I really don't think that the nursery would be able to look after a child with a highly contagious disease with lots of other children, do you?

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 21:55

tasteless joke tiem

what's the difference between love and herpes?

herpes is forever

badabing!

roundtable · 09/02/2012 21:57

Oh stranded at least she's asleep, plenty of times for cuddles tomorrow if you still feel bad. Hope she's not coming down with something and is just overtired.

WorraLiberty · 09/02/2012 21:57

Here's a novel idea OP

Maybe...just maybe you could have Googled facts about Herpes from a reputable website?

roundtable · 09/02/2012 21:57

badabong!

msfishneedsabycycle · 09/02/2012 21:58

if a mother passes on the virus at birth, then the baby can be very ill, it can cause encephalitis which is very serious. this is maybe what happened, but i don't think that makes the child infectious to other children. Just deserving of understanding both to the mother and child.

saladsandwich · 09/02/2012 21:59

feels sorry for the poor child who is going to be gossiped about for life just because they caught the herpes virus as a newborn... how awful

HavePatience · 09/02/2012 21:59

I'm shocked at some of the replies.
I think op just didn't know what herpes was... And has been misinformed.
If she had asked if she should worry about her dd playing closely with a child with tonsillitis or chicken pox or something, would it have been different?

TheHumancatapult · 09/02/2012 21:59

Ditsy if she has no sores it means the virus is dormant anyway so no worries at all . If little girl unwell she may have a flare up but it's not super contagious infact be expected to be in school once school age . Dd us only off because she gets in her eyes / mouth nose etc ( she has type 1)

But bearing in mind a cold lands her in hospital hence she picked up from her gran kissing her when had a cold sore But sharing cups / tots etc will not spread it

HorribleDay · 09/02/2012 22:03

Jesus christ.

HSV1 (cold sores) can occur orally or, if oral sex occurs with an active cold sore, can be transmitted to the genitals.
HSV 2 (genital herpes)) can be contracted through sexual intercourse.

The virus is only contagious if there are active weeping sores. In very sever HSV 2 infections occasionally detectable just before a sore appears.

HSV 1 and 2 can be contracted by newborns, either through vaginal delivery if its a first infection, As mother builds up antibodies after this which are transmitted to the baby, or through kissing newborn with an active cold sore. Do you KNOW she had a new first outbreak of HSV2 during delivery? Or is it possible she actually, like most adults at some point in there life, had a coldsore and kissed her baby?

Most adults have been exposed to the coldsore virus (HSV 1) by aged 18. At worst, your DC will get a cold sore. How old is your DC?

A cold sore. Not a life threatening illness.

Feminine · 09/02/2012 22:41

Herpes is still contagious if no sore is present.

ShagOBite · 09/02/2012 22:43

Are you sure?

Feminine · 09/02/2012 22:52

It seems that a lot of my knowledge learned here (US) differs from UK info.

Yes, I have been taught to be careful even when no sores are present.

I have a very close friend who has also been told the same.

Heyyyho · 09/02/2012 22:55

Dd gets cold sore/ herpes 1 virus and it can be v serious indeed, she was in hosp for a week on anti vitals Iv. Yes it can be life threatening.

We Were told it is a virus which lays dormant inside her and flares up at certain points in time. Not overly contagious even when flared up which is when there will be a sore present on the skin.

Op there is minimal chance your child has picked this virus up.

Please don't spread any more malicious gossip about this poor child.

HorribleDay · 09/02/2012 23:50

HSV 2 can be slightly more contagious and serious, occasionally evidencing viral shedding when no sores are present. HSV 1 less so, I was always taught.

Sorry to hear about your DD - how frightening for you - but in the vast majority of those who contract the virus, either no sore appears or they have a self limiting cold sore which is easily treated with Zovirax.

There's a lot of hysteria about HSV - suprising given that most adults carry HSV1.

TheHumancatapult · 10/02/2012 06:46

femini your wrong sort of

I someone is getting a cold sore and those that get them often say they get tingling feeling first potentially it can spread but it is not very contagious .

Heyho your dd1 sounds similar to mine .

But honestly op dont worry like i said my other 3dc have never picked it up and neither have I and i certainy dont stop hugging her even when she has them

ledkr · 10/02/2012 09:21

horrible dayNobody will die from a cold sore no but they are painfull and embarrassing and once you get them you tend to suffer for life so why the wrath?If i could choose for my child to be cold sore free then i would of course,wouldnt you?? My frineds dd is currently in the childrens hospital with another mouth full of blisters from the herpes virus,i wouldnt let my baby near her and my friend wouldnt want me to.

EirikurNoromaour · 10/02/2012 09:52

Herpes is contagious when no sore is present (viral shedding)

Type one (normally facial) can be transmitted to genitals through oral sex.

Herpes can be transmitted to baby during birth, it is extremely rare and only if mum is having first outbreak during labour. Women with herpes type one or two can give birth vaginally.

This child could in theory pass on herpes to other children if they kiss on the mouth. If you are worried then talk to nursery about being vigilant - ds's nursery teach 'blowing kisses' so the kids don't kiss each other or staff on the lips.

It really isn't worth panicking about.

HorribleDay · 10/02/2012 09:55

OP is going by rumour and lack of info - it's not like this child has active blisters and was in close contact with her DC.

Most people pick up the HSV virus by adulthood. No one wants their DC to have cold sores, but it's really not the worst thing in the world! I think that was my point, possibly made a little more forcefully than I usually post last night!