To round up rightwingers and shoot them?

[Hullygully]

I am so bored and frustrated with politely pointing out why rightwingers are wrong about everything.

If I have to read one more thread about why someone with mental health issues shouldn't have had children, or why someone made homeless should have managed better, or why the benefits cap is a good thing because Fuck the Poor, I will get out my gun and raze the boards of MN.

STOP IGNORING THE FACTS YOU RIGHTWING IGNORAMUSES AND CLIMB DOWN OUT OF YOUR OWN NARROW ARSES TO THE WORLD THAT MOST PEOPLE STRUGGLE ALONG IN.

Oh, and you're all cunts BTW.

Not sure if it is great idea to bring up the house of lords, they were not elected , completely undemocratic, it is appalling that unelected individuals can make decisions how the country is run. Like it or not the tories were more popular in the general election, also remember labour broadly supports the cap too so the vast majority of MPs and the country on all recent opinion polls.

Fantastic. Let's return to the 60s and 70s.

Life was so much better then.

Boffy, state-run tends to mean Nationalisation, a socialist concept, not a right wing one.

Although I can see how you are right wing.

Boffy, wtf?
Unbelievable

My grandmother was treated in an institution. ECT treatment. Very inhumane. Her mental health grew worse not better. She feared hospitals and doctors for the rest of her life.

Yes, the 70s were so much better.

like it or not the tories were more popular in the general election

Er, no they weren't. That's why they had to form a coalition.

A coalition of members who have reneged on a great deal of the pre-election pledges made by both parties.

Ilovecoffee- regardless of position on HOL that report i linked to is still a decet study with enlightening and interesting results reporting on what people want from the benefit system. the fact HOL liked it boosted their value with me* but has no bearing on report.

*Although if government intent of riding roughshod over their votes we may as well disband, stop paying the money and turn the floorspace into B&B accom for MPs to save on expense claims.

Although, Boffy. Do share your financial breakdown of how institutions would save the country.

Love the part about the jobs getting people off benefits.

I have learned so much from lurking on MN. Particularly about language and how certain terms and phrases are interpreted by disabled people and their families.

And now, I find that those exact same people are using language about rounding up people and shooting them just because they not agree with them.

What lovely people.

I trained in one of the last big Victorian MH hoispitals- obviously nit under the Victorians (38 not 138! but YKWIM.

Some of the people there had been admitted becuase of tiny things- one aldy had a disgigured hand. She ahd however become so institutionalised that she remained right up to closing as she ahd no chance of independence; this was not unique at all. 'luckily' she got ehr wish and died before the unit actually finally closed.

I ahve worked in wonderful palces for the elderly and horrible bis instituioons- I wonder if people who designed the latter actually relaised that the people dwelling therein had emotions, dignity, even pain thresholds? If they knew that their carers loved them every bit as much as any otehr child?

You would take my boys? What, just the two in SN schools? What about ds1- he will probably work one day even if he is in an SNU now. And my other two? Both beinga ssessed? Would you take them all? Becuase I wouldn't be saving money by working i;d be taking one of those MH placements myself. Whereas if I can find work I will hopefully be earning again this year.

My boys are my life, my light; they are gorgeous children.

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You should join in more often. Maybe you would learn what a tongue-in-cheek thread is (albeit one with serious undertones).

You are only allowed to be offended at this, if you wrote to the BBC about Jeremy Clarkson shooting public sector workers.

ButHe that was just the OP with a very dry SOH, whereas someone seriously suggested forcing my kids into institutions.

OK for one yes......

Sunshine

The tories were more popular at the election, please check to see how many MPs they have and how many labour have! They were the most popular party. Also as I said labour supports the benefits cap too.

More popular yes, but not popular enough . Given the hatred for Labour at the time, that's amazingly poor actually, it should have been a walkover in terms of normal voting cycles.

labour supports variation of benefits cap, not as it has been passed- they want CB left out of sums

(As per yesterday's lords vote which, alongside the votes last week in the HOL, the Government pland to overturn)

Dry sense of humour?

Sorry - but I dont get the humour.

There are people in the world today being round up and shot for their opinions.

Sorry - but this is very very bad taste.

Boffy

Did you live through 1970's Vritian Boffy ? I wonder because i look at the photo's of my husband with his two working parents, both teachers and he had nothing.
Didn't even own a bed until he was 7, camp bed before then.

You don't need to get her SOH

But did you actually tink she was advocating amss murder on MN? truly?

Because that's pertinent to the argument...

OOh teachers very poor in 70's until their wages restructured

I always suspect institutions are the ultimate karma; the sort of cow that advocates them is the one most likely to be taken to one by their family at first opportunity.

No of course I did not think she was advocating mass murder.

But I dont think mass murder of people for their opinions is a subject for humour.

Didn't we do all that stuff about it being horrible and poor taste yesterday afternoon?

(Am presuuming ILove that you did not read report? PLEASE prove me wrong!)

Bloody hell... My pertinent to the argument comment was with reference to Tory 'majority'.