...to be watching Graham Norton and thinking 'Madonna! What the fuck have you done to your face?! to your face

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She looks terrible, her face has that bride of wilderstein/wind tunnel look

Aibu to want to shake her and ask her to think more 'Helen Mirren' and less Joan Rivers?!

Beautiful body but her face... Horrid.

Why do some women think this is a good look?!

I love MN. Said exactly this to DH and he said "I was just thinking how she oops pretty good for her age". Honestly. Glad to read some men are more perceptive (to be fair on DH he has dreadful eyesight so could be down to that).
However, I don't think they can do as much for hands as they can pump into your face which is my theory on the gloves! Old lady hands.

oops? Looks, thanks Apple

I always hoped Madonna would be brave & age fiercely, quite sad to see her fading away into anonymity like that.

Can I just say, I read the thread title, not knowing that Maddona was on Graham Norton and thought "what a bitch, I know Graham has had a bit of work and is rather effeminate, but he doesn't look like Maddona."

As you were....

I wonder if plastic surgery has a better effect on some women than others? Demi Moore for example looks amazing and must be a similar age to Madge.

also Sharon Osborne looks good I think

Sharon Osbourne, so I hear, wears enough slap to warrant the 'chisel' method of makeup removal. Don't be fooled.

Oh it's soooo disappointing.

She doesn't look like Madonna anymore does she?
Those bloody cheeks!!!!

Demi didn't go for the hamster cheeks.

maybe it's the hamster cheeks then. Also I think that Kylie's skin is too smooth - like a doll.

Ewww those veins

What on EARTH is this country's obsession with Madonna? I cannot STAND the woman.
She can't sing either.

Women wanting to look younger isn't a new thing driven by celebs it's an age old desire for some women and vain to boot.
The fact she's plastic or enhanced draws attention to her so I have no sympathy just pity for her.

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I loved this article
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2080062/Tara-Palmer-Tomkinson-Madonna-Stars-trying-hard-stay-young.html

and now seem to see cat features on most of our mature female actors.

I think my mother and her sister and dad's sister are still as beautiful as they ever were - all now pushing 70, but they look much younger (perhaps because they haven't had any work??) I aspire to follow them. Also hate all the TOWIE kind of look where everything, but everything, is fake. And how absolutely usual these days it is to have fake hair. My hair is rubbish, but I'd rather make the best of it than attach some poor Russian girl's hair on and dye it. Urgh.

Only caught the end of Madonna but thought exactly that. As did DH, thankfully. Might watch rest on demand now to see the catty bits.

I had an ex who was a photographer and got sent as helper on a shoot to shoot her. The room was lined with mirrors. Not one of her entourage would admit they were unimportant enough to leave the room, so they all had to lie on the floor.

Also once had dinner in tiny little Sardinian restaurant (3 tables). Guy Ritchie and some of his lad mates were on the next table, but I didn't notice as was too busy eavesdropping the bedhppping lesbians gossiping on the next table in first flush of romance with DH. She sent her
Minder at 10pm to pick him up...

Fog, the pressures on female performers to look good are much greater than on the rest of us. Hence the hidey hands thing for Madge. And why so many female actors get nipped and tucked and can't weigh a gram over eight stone, etc etc.

And did you hear that quote from a record company business meeting on Woman's Hour the other day? It was to the effect of: "Right, so do we think she's brought the ugly look 'in', then?" They were talking about Adele. FFS.

We saw Emma Thompson on JR last night and DH said "blimey, she's aged" and I said "No, thats how 52 year old women look! They dont look like they have been stretched!"

PMSL at her story about a local telling the police about the 50 year old naked man in the woods on her property and it was her, she had been skinny dipping :o

Bogeyface - brilliant

Does anyone else feel this way about Julianne Moore? I saw footage of her at a recent awards ceremony and she looked totally plastic, to the extent that I didn't recognise her. Afterwards read an article saying that she'd never had
plastic surgery done .

Eugh I was looking for a thread about this on friday!

I thought she looked nice, in an ice queen/don't fuck with me kind of way. I've gone right off her though, despite being a fan since I was about 6. She was such a COW. A cow to Graham, a cow to the doll men, a cow to the man in her film, a cow in general.

Cow.

I think women should just ditch Madonna as a role model.

Firstly, she came on wearing fingerless gloves which is fashionable in the USA now for the purpose of disguising your hands ? your aging and wrinkly hands. Her face did not look natural for a 53 year old woman. Though I couldn?t work if it was botox or a facelift that gave her a rigid, but youthful look. I found it disappointing to see how she is buying into the easy equation: femaleness means youthful looks.

Secondly, the unwrapped the ancient romantic myth ?all women want to be swept off their feet by a knight in shining armour?. She clearly believes in it and would like to get married again. In my view, this myth is not what all that women want from men. The expectations of most women of their main relationship are very different from role playing princess and knight as she is suggesting!

Particularly disappointing to hear such nonsense from a woman who has done so well for herself through her own efforts. To me that is just weird and saddening behaviour! Why, oh why does she present herself in this way and perpetuates such a silly myth?

Let?s forget about her altogether and look for role models in our immediate environment where women get on with their lives without using escapist myths or invasive and questionable beauty treatments. Real femaleness wins the day for me!

DD was watching, "Desperately Seeking Susan" the other day and I had quite forgotten how very pretty Madonna was when she was in her late twenties. She always had full, babyish cheeks when young like this but that sort of prettiness, based on the contours of the face rather than the bones, doesn't last and she had a more flat and angular look for most of her career.

In a strange way, the cheeks do make her look like she used to except that they are too high. And she now looks "ageless" which is never a good look, bless her.

Her daughter Lourdes really looks like her in that picture that Winter just linked to. She is a beautiful young woman.

I always fancied Madonna when I was little.

God, yes, she is dead ringer for Lourdes in monochrome. That girl is even more stunning with her darker skin and eyes.

My GBF was an obsessive fan and he thought I looked like Madge in the eighties so I do know about prettiness fading (faster in my case)

I always used to wonder why she was so keen on short and harshly-coloured hair during her many re-inventions. Fairly long wavy golden blonde is the most flattering. Now I know. She was sensibly keeping that for her later decades. Don't think she's changed it much at all for years.

Her hair is lovely.