To think that people who moan on facebook about being delayed after someone has committed suicide under a train are insensitive twats?

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One of my facebook friends has today written a moany status 'thanking' the 'idiot' who jumped under a train (am assuming he was delayed getting home because of this).

Some poor bastard has got to the a point so low in their life that they feel that the best thing they can do is end it all, and all some people can do is moan that they have been mildly inconvenienced getting home.

This isnt the first status I have seen like this either. Now granted, I am not a commuter so have not been in the position where I have been delayed on a train due to a track suicide, although I do know of a girl who ended her life under a train.

AIBU?

I think about the ambulance workers that have to pick up the mess afterwards.

YABU to give a toss about what people write on FB.

Suicide is not selfish as such,

But I think of all the ways to do it, stepping in front of a train whose driver will see everything and it will ruin his life as there is NOTHING he can do about it is the worst and most selfish was that people could do it iyswim?

I think that is what gets to many people about train suicides

YANBU. I used to work near a train station, one day some poor guy threw himself on to the track. He survived but lost an arm, yet people were complaining about his 'selfishness' and 'lack of consideration'.
Can't believe how cold-hearted some people can be.

Am glad people feel the same way as me.

Actually this is a reason I am glad I dont live or commute in London. The facebook friend generally seems to think that living in London is some kind of badge of honour and is forever harping on about it. But if living in London turns you into a such a self centred muppet, I am glad I stayed out of there!

INeedANewNickname - Forward your twat friend a copy of that article if you like...

Yes, it is very, very sad for he drivers of the train/people who have to witness it but...

They are still alive

Yes, it's annoying when you are late home, miss bedtime, stand on a cold wet platform for hours, but....

You are still alive

Someone has died, somewhere a family is going through the worst kind of pain. I just wish people would show a little respect.

Putting yourself at the centre of what is happening is selfish. Believing others are better off without you is still placing importance on yourself. I understand that people may feel they are doing the right thing but it to kill oneself is about how you feel, no one else.

No yanbu they are very insensitive. They ought to think of the poor families involved that they have left behind and their comments are very hurtful. Also something that a lot of people may even realise is that their is a train driver that has had to watch that person step out in front of the train and not be able to do anything at all.

My father has had 2 people commit suicide by doing this and was quite shook up as there is nothing he could do. He did not call them idiots though, he wondered why they felt the way did and showed compassion.

So a person delayed home is so insignificant compared to the fact there was a person so low in their life that they did this, a very upset and distaught family.

Quite frankly they should be ashamed by the comment they have made.

I spoke to a train driver at our local station two weeks ago. I asked him why the train from our village was delayed. He said because someone had walked out on the track in front of him. He managed to stop without hitting him but it was close. The man said he wanted to get on the train there rather at the station 200 yds along the track. Fortunately the driver stopped the train in time but was so traumatised by what had happened he had to wait for another driver to come with him to drive the train into London.

We get suicides practically every week on my line and whilst I do think of the person whose actions delayed my train I think more about the train driver. The saddest one, which happened about six years ago and I still think about, was a mother and two children.

Lady we saw it in the news at the time, it was local to us. Even when the story was publicised he said it was selfish blah blah.
Oddly enough I haven't spoken to him since

Everlong :(

Everlong

Oh, I am so sorry Everlong Hugs.

it is selfish.

That doesn't mean that it isn't desperately sad, but suicide is the ultimate selfish act. You are thinking only of yourself when you kill yourself, not of the pain and devastation you will leave behind.

Mollie I remember that mother and children from a few years back. She'd told the guard she was walking further up the line because she wanted to show the children the trains. iirc her mother killed herself in the same place a year to the day after.

I was thinking only of my children when I nearly od'd. I thought they would have a far better life without me. Had they been anywhere other than home that night I am 99% certain I would have done it, but I didn't want them to find me.

Just because you believe you are acting selflessly it does not mean you are not selfish.

I have mixed feelings. You must be absolutely desperate to do it, but some of the ways are just horrible to your relatives, family and complete strangers like train drivers
Having heard the screams many times of people who have found their husband/wife/children hanging I wouldn't wish it on anyone. One that sticks in my head is the parents that went round to a house to give their son their Christmas presents on Christmas day to find him hanging

I think people often forget that depression is an illness like any other, just because the symptoms are primarily emotional doesn't make it any less real or potentially life-threatening. If someone commits suicide they are dying from their illness - because the chemicals in their brain are fucked up, not because they want to, any more than anyone wants to die of cancer.

LadyFlumpalot I've just read Eva's link. Can you tell us what her background was? I've reason to ask. Poor Eva, and her poor mother, I hope her mother got the response she asked for from others in the same desperately sad situation.

I don't understand why people say that it is an inherently selfish act, turn it around (I see that children will complicate matters), your for the sake of argument Brother has had a terrible life, he suffers from depression which he can gain no relief, he just genuinely does not want to live for a second longer.

How is you wanting him to live a life full of pain and anguish, not selfish? Surely it is every single persons right to decide their ultimate fate. You are basically saying, live a life full of anguish and pain, because I don't want to feel grief or loss, how is that fair?

My friend"s father committed suicide by stepping out in front of a train. It was his third attempt at taking his own life and I except he decided to choose a pretty fool proof method.

It happened 25 years ago and I was on a train that was delayed (I was 14). I can't imagine there is a single passenger who even remembers the delay much less be affected by it the same obviously cannot be said for my friends family.

And in any discussion on the subject my friend believes her father effectively had a terminal illness. Which is sadly what depression can be.

Eeeurgh, yanbu.

At least it's not Japan where the families of the deceased have to pay compensation to the rail company for the inconvenience. Awful.