to think that this is brilliant trolling?

[toweraboveyou]

Here (taken for a dating site troll)

Air con dries. We have the air con on even when it is warming the car (to dehumidify)

Check if the carpet is getting wet when the roads are wet - it may be you have a small hole that is letting in spray from the road - bloody hard to fix cheaply though as they can be a bugger to find

I am offended that our posts crossed... :D

Why are you offended? Because you assume that the subject will be offended, because you wish to censor people's actions or another reason? Not judging, just interested.

AF, last time my windows had condensation from the inside, I found a load of respiring fruit rotting away under my passenger seat. Seems that Moth Junior has yet to realise that the compost bin is outside my car.

Maybe a rogue grape out of your shopping bags is getting you all worried innit?

hole ?

omg, that sounds bad < cries >

some twat pranged me in my works car park the other month

I haven't been able to afford to get it looked at

it could be that

Or a loose rubber seal, a rogue grape / spilled apple juice, seatbelt trapped in door. Anything that may be (or may have temporarily) allowed water ingress. Check under the mats - some cars have a habit of damp carpets. Example, the smart roadster had a recall on the seals on the roof which was soaking the carpet behind the driver's seat and causing constant steaming up. We had two made at the same time (his and hers) one of which has the problem and the other didn't.

oh, it could be a grape ?

blimey...such a small thing

woundup I found the idea of grown men passing judgement on women's appearance and getting a big fat laugh out of it offensive

it offends me I don't do "proxy offence" so don't assume i don't know my own mind

because that is offensive

AF - I had a car with a moist carpet. It was the wee pipe that takes screen wash to the back windscreen leaking, under the carpeting. Maybe it's that.

you are very helpful with my car problem though

sue...maybe it's that

you see (me being a woman 'n' that) I throw my handbag on the passenger floor

it was wet every time I picked it up

it took me a while to realise what was happening, especially since I couldn't see through my windscreen

AF: me too actually. Would you still be offended if the subjects came on ph (unlikely I know) and said they weren't offended?

I honestly don't know whether I'm offended or not. My initial response was 'meh, ooh is that semi-viscous coupling '. Maybe I was wrong to not be offended (if I'm not part of the solution, I'm part of the problem). Or maybe not.

Moist carpet

oh, I dunno, woundup

there are people who think "that's not my problem" and there are others who think "I have a problem with that"

I am in the latter group

it's just in my nature

I admit that it was more of a foul smelling, rotting, wet fruitbowl that I found fizzing merrily away under my passenger seat, rather than a single, innocent little grape.

"that" potentially being a whole range of things that bug you

sexism bugs me

racism bugs me

casual cruelty bugs me

some things don't bug me, that would bug others

welsh

getorf...my carpet may be moist, but my mind is clean ....

AF: and a formidable nature it is by all accounts. When DW asked who I was discussing this with, when I said it was you I got a: 'oooh, nice knowing you'.

Anyway, my original reason for logging back into this rarely used account was to argue against the vehemence of some personalities when discussing something 'borderline' (and this thread has shown the ph thread to be equivocal with some supporters and some against). It worries me that society automatically takes the safe route and will jump to condemn at every opportunity. That route leads to conformity and anonymity (IMHO)

I think you are overanalysing it a bit wound.

I don't think however that arguing against mysoginistic behaviour is taking the safe route, rather the contrary.

do you have a sunroof AF? The seal on my friend's one had rotted and that caused the carpet to be damp (and the windows to mist up)

ah, you see I think the "safe" route is to say "it's not my problem" and then turn over the telly channel to Alan Carr or some other such bollocks

or to laugh along in case you get thought of as a humourless, dried-up feminist

much more "unsafe" to put your head over the parapet

"That route leads to conformity and anonymity (IMHO)"

...and name changing.

I agree.

no sunroof, christine

bloody hell animation, are you still sneaking around in your cloak ?

AnyFucker -

And are you still holding court on here. Looks like it!!